KKR vs. Blackstone vs. Carlyle
Which would you work for and why?
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There's prob about 2374932795797392794128791797 threads on this topic.
^this
you'd think so, but responses on past threads are all: "troll, search"...
For the record, Marissa Miller.
I know this big-nosed yid that works at KKR, he's a baws.
I've heard all three founders speak and I definitely like rubenstein more than kravis and schwarzman
Fuck yeah Blackstone
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Close call but I'd go with Carlyle. They're more a pure private equity shop while Blackstone has really become a hybrid private equity firm / investment banking M&A firm / and hedge fund/asset manager.
You bumped this thread for that?
Megafund returns have all been shit. Someone posted a thread on this a while ago: http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/megafunds-performance
I would work for whoever raises the biggest fund
Blackstone vs. KKR (Originally Posted: 04/12/2008)
Just curious to hear people's thoughts - which firm would people choose if given the choice? Specifically focused on pre-MBA (post-analyst) position. Think you can't go wrong in terms of building your resume at either place, but in terms of culture, lifestyle etc. is one clearly better than the other?
Do you have both offers? If not, revive this thread when they both come through.
Guessing he never got those offers..
KKR invented the modern day leveraged buyout
bump, thoughts?
LOL
I would do KKR just for the heritage. Both would be equally phenomenal on the resume so that's a moot point.
KKR because it is still smaller and PE is the main business. PE is only one of many divisions at BX (with advisory, real estate, HF, GSO etc...)
Not sure how accurate this is. As mentioned above KKR has a capital markets and operational consulting group as well as a credit group and some other liquid markets stuff (which is common among megafunds-Blackstone (GSO), Bain (Sankaty), TPG (TPG Credit), Apollo, Ares, Carlyle etc all have credit management arms).
I'd say its a toss up. Depends how you feel about where KKR is going in the near-term future.
There are many a story about companies that meddled outside of what they're experts at and ended up getting burnt bad... think LTCM. IMO, there is quite a bit of uncertainty as to how KKR will do as a public entity and in transitioning itself to a more banking-type enterprise. Meanwhile, BX is tried and tested on that business model.
In addition to that, I personally am a bit skeptical as to how KKR will do in integrating and running the GS Prop team they just lifted into their firm. That could, IMO be the LTCM-esque beginning of the end. Thirdly, PE is in a bit of flux right now. Not sure which direction it will go in. Its getting increasingly harder to get the same economics as have been historically realized across the last 5-7 years. Wouldn't be surprised if major institutional investors permanently downsized their PE asset class allocations, as a correction to the recent bite from over-exuberance.
Last and to KKR's credit, they have been doing a hell of a job in extracting additional value through KKR Capital Markets, and to a lesser degree KKR Capstone. So thats clearly a point of differentiation from the other PE shops and a strong foundations (at least KKR Cap Mkts) in the transition to a banking-type model.
In sum, I'd probably go with Blackstone less risk with roughly the same upside. Lets face it, if KKR knocks it out of the park, BX isn't going to drop to a tier 2 PE shop.
Blackstone, name sounds cooler.
Would'nt go to either, would always choose Distressed, MM, Mezz or growth capital. But out of the two of them I would go for Blackstone....Berkely Square is a nice place to work.
PE Comp - KKR, Blackstone & Carlyle (Originally Posted: 04/19/2011)
Gents,
What would be a comp level for an Associate 1 level or Senior Analyst to enter in one of theses names with out a MBA. Prior experience was in equity coverage and advisory.
Also, if an associate can help to refer a deal to the fund. is there a commission for him/her?
Thanks!
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/page/faq-how-much-will-i-make-if-i-pursu…
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