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the amount you get in hand is all that matters, so your exit value rules

but the returns are:

1. Business dependant, which leads you to nr. 2 below.

2. Thesis dependant. The investment thesis preceeds your returns attribution. If you expect to use the biz as an M&A platform, then you'll be focused on multiples/EBITDA, not as much FCF. If it's already stagnated, then probably FCF.

incentives trumph ethics
 

Nah I think multiple expansion would be the worst one right? EBITDA growth would have the multiplier effect and is more directly able to be increased. multiple expansion is essentially out of the company's hands and depends on macro factors I would think 

 

All else held equal returns from FCF are more predictable than multiple expansion/reversionary cash flow given exit is further into the future so harder to predict + multiple expansion depends on macro/external factors.

So if u can achieve your target IRR through nice fcf margins the deal doesnt depend on a big exit to succeed.

That’s what i can think of

 

When comparing the impact of $1 EBITDA growth, $1 multiple expansion, and $1 debt paydown, the clear winner is multiple expansion due to its outsized leverage on Equity Val. In this scenario, a $1 increase in the multiple applied to EBITDA results in a significantly greater impact. For example, with a $100 EBITDA base and an initial 10x multiple, a $1 increase in the multiple (from 10x to 11x) boosts EV and Equity Val by $100. In contrast, $1 EBITDA growth contributes to EV only in proportion to the multiple (e.g., at 10x, $1 in EBITDA increases EV and Equity Val by $10), and $1 debt paydown increases Equity Val on a simple 1:1 basis without affecting EV. While multiple expansion delivers the most dramatic increase in Equity Val, it is often less controllable, relying on favorable market dynamics or strategic repositioning. EBITDA growth, although less impactful per unit, is more durable and reflects core operational improvement or synergistic M&A activity. Debt paydown, while essential for de-risking the investment and optimizing returns prior to exit, is the least compelling driver of equity value creation in this framework

 

The interviewer said something about how when comparing EBITDA growth vs Multiple Expansion, the answer should be EBITDA growth for similar reasons as Price vs Volume increase?

 

A single turn of expansion has outsized impact. You don’t even have to do anything.

Very hard to drive EBITDA growth and debt pay down is capped by the amount of debt you have.

Best case scenario is buying at a bottom-cycle multiple and selling at a top - even if the business stays the same / slightly declines, you’ll make out like a king.

 

Yeah but I'd argue that it's much harder and out of your control to increase a turn of multiple expansion. Whereas, EBITDA growth and debt pay down is more skill-based and in your control

 
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Yeah but I'd argue that it's much harder and out of your control to increase a turn of multiple expansion. Whereas, EBITDA growth and debt pay down is more skill-based and in your control

This just hasn't been true the past 15 years at all, hence the large outperformance in general from LMM/MM funds vs. the mega funds. They buy at 5-7x, sell for 12-15x. There isn't really a world where this changes either as the mega funds/UMM funds can't come down market really to buy $50-250mm EV businesses.

 

Let me suggest why you might pick the cash generation as you mention the interviewer did.

Let‘s first agree on the premisis: there is $1 in value creation across all alternatives, i.e. for a $100 EBITDA and 10x EV/EBITDA business we are comparing:

1) $1 additional Cash generation

2) $0.1 additional EBITDA (with no increase in cash generation)

3) 0.01x increase in multiple

Each of these contributes $1 in value.

Firstly, consider time value of money. The cash generation is today and you can pay yourself a dividend, while the $1 increase from EBITDA or multiple expansion only comes through at time of exit, which may not be today.

Secondly, the cash generation feels more permanent than an increase in multiple (or even the EBITDA) which may change again if you choose to not sell at that point in time.

Consider also that PE firms try to market themselves as good custodians of businesses to investors, potential targets, etc. As above poster said: it depends what you are marketing as your strategy. Usually they like to emphasise that their value creation comes from EBITDA increases and cash generation. That’s because it is more under their control vs multiple expansion which is not equally attributable to them / the business. (Of course this is a bs argument because PE firms select firms that will grow anyway and we do not have the counterfactual, but they do say this a lot). 

 

This is a great answer. A lot of morons on here saying that 1x turn of mult expansion beats out $1 of FCF generation - yeah fucking obviously, that’s clearly not the question. The question is about the qualitative aspects, and what level of control you have (or presume to have) on that outcome, all things being equal. 
 

Would also add - cash is king. There’s a real level of certainty here in what you’re doing on a tangible level. EBITDA, while very similar concept, can be wishy-washy - that’s why we hire QoE and make our own assessment of how bullshit certain adjustments are, since you can basically create EBITDA out of thin air if you try hard enough. 

 
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