Investing to IB Without Prior IB Experience
Posted this in the PE forum but thought I'd get better insights from folks in banking:
I'd like to get some thoughts on making a pivot from PE to banking. I have a bit of an unorthodox background where I started my career in consulting before transitioning to infrastructure PE for ~6 years with a generalist experience across power & renewables, digital infra and transport. I'm in a tough spot now where there was no room for promotion beyond my current seat as a Sr ASO and was pushed out of my fund. If there was room at my fund I would have been in line to make VP in another 2 years.
Until the market picks up again I was thinking about a 2-3 year pivot to banking in the event I couldn't land at another fund. A few thoughts / concerns I had which I was hoping you could help me think through:
1) Would a move like this even be possible given I did not go through a traditional analyst program, and if so would I be able to make it without a significant haircut on experience?
2) I'm trying to think through what kind of material skill gaps I could run into and how to frame my experience to address them. Anything hypothetical that stands out?
3) Have you seen this move done before? I know there is a strong precedent for IB > PE > IB but curious if you've seen the consulting nuance described in my case.
Also FWIW performance wasn't an issue and I have references from my old fund so there is leverage I can use to get my foot in the door with the banking relationships my fund has, but I want more conviction around this before I start calling folks and was hoping to use this forum as a whiteboard.
Thanks!
Making a pivot from Private Equity (PE) to Investment Banking (IB) without prior IB experience is certainly unconventional, but not impossible. Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some insights to address your concerns:
1) Feasibility of the Move Without Traditional Analyst Program Experience
2) Material Skill Gaps and Framing Your Experience
3) Precedent for This Move
Additional Considerations:
In summary, while this move is challenging, your consulting and PE background, combined with a targeted approach and strong networking, can make it possible.
Sources: Q&A: Barclays IB to MM Private Equity, Transitioning from tech to a serious finance job (yes, you read that right), Q&A: 1st year VC analyst (~750M AUM), Q&A: Former MBB Consultant, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/breaking-into-private-equity-from-banking?customgpt=1
While it’s an odd move I don’t think it would be hard given most of what you’re doing in banking at analyst/associate is a dumbed down version of what you do in PE (modeling, slide creation, cleaning up client data to send to buyers) and above that at the VP level you’re starting to focus more on relationship management and working with 1 MD in a specific vertical. I don’t think it’s IB is that intellectually difficult which is why most people brain drain out of banking.
Bigger thing I gotta ask is why would anyone ever want to go back to banking. Do you know how long and miserable the hours are in banking (imo they are much worse than PE while also doing less interesting stuff cause you’re just a slave to your MD/clients). I had a friend who went IB > buy side > IB and everyone in our friend group thinks he’s a psycho. Idk what your PE experience was like but overall I think there are plenty of funds with decent culture (especially in LMM) vs. pretty much all banks have shit culture and long hours
My hours on the buyside were relatively bad. My peers who came from banking described their hours as on par, if not worse during deal sprints. This is really less of a desire to want to move into banking and more of an alternative given how tough the Sr ASO / VP market has been across all fund sizes. To be clear I don't disagree with anything you're saying above.
I’m a VP that went to M&A banking after some time in PE. I had never done M&A banking before.
I did not find the job hard at all to pick up. Nobody questioned whether I’d be able to do this job nor do I think anyone would question you.
In my experience, people were worried I wouldn’t be able to swallow my pride and live my life as a banker, that I’d be able to work as hard as they do in banking, and that I wouldn’t quit within a year.
I’m sure they will still test you on technicals but my guess that’s more confirmatory than proving on their key concerns
Why would you go back to banking vs a portco role in infrastructure?
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