Yoo Credit Dawgs, How're You Making Money?

Yooo folks in credit, can u tell me where your returns are coming from by: 

OID
Commitment Fees
Closing Fees
Cash Interest
PIK
(any other)

What kinds of returns are u looking to underwrite across sectors (distressed, stressed, performing)? How do these vary by industry??

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dude this was some next level cringe to read, probably cringier than what OP said and that was bad enough as it was. Dear Christ I have to get off this website. 

 
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All-in yield and underwriting fees - leveraged loan deals

-see my posts detailing all-in yield, fees & flex, etc. 

https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/tla-vs-tlb-maturity-and-leverage#comment-2071053

https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/oid-in-leveraged-loans

1) all-in yield calc (margin, OID, LIBOR Floor).

  • L+400, 99.0, 1.00%
  • = 400 + [100/4] + 100
  • = 525 bps = 5.25%
  • Note: Only trick is OID. OID based on 4yr avg life, so divide by 4

2) UW Fees - BB/Ba2 Transformative M&A deal

  • BB/Ba2 M&A deal
  • BB/Ba2 UW fee = 1.00% to 1.25% on TLB (seen 0.75% tho). Tranches UW Fee will differ
  • Market Flex = 125-150 bps (normal market conditions)

3) UW Fees - B/B2 RC/1L TLB / 2L TL deal

  • RC/1L TLB / 2L TL 
  • RC/1L TLB = 2.25%
  • 2L = 2.75% (+0.50% from 1L); even seen 3.00%
  • Privately Placed 2L TL = 0.25% - 0.50% fee (bank still gets this if it's privately placed - at least it's something)
  • Market Flex = 150-175 bps [+25 bps from 1L] (normal market conditions)

4) Best Efforts Fee - B/B2 TLB deal

  • 1.00%
 

Thanks dawg. Without going in lot details, mind sharing a bit more on the breakdown of those juicy returns u guys have been gorging on? 

 

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