Non-target School Aiming for the Stars
I know coming from a non-target school puts me at a severe disadvantage, but I am attempting to break into higher finance. I am curious to hear from others: how much can school placement be outweighed by networking, internships, and persistence?
For some context, I am a current sophomore at Rowan University with plans to graduate with a Masters in Finance --> Asset Management for 3-5 years --> MBA from a top target --> Private Equity at a top-tier firm.
I can share some insight into my situation on networking, and experience as well. I am setting up coffee chats with employees in positions that I would want to see myself in. My schedule is filled with career fairs, and networking events. I am an Intern at a travel agency, part of the student organizations on campus, and everything like that. I just feel that even with all of this, the name of Wharton or Stern outmatches all of my tools.
For those of you who broke in from a non-target, what worked and what didn't?
Is it realistic to think strong internships and networking can outweigh school brand if I keep grinding?
What would you do differently if you could start again?
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Sources: The Myth of the "Target School", Networking 101 – 8 tips from a “non-target” school student, How can I become successful from a no-name school?, Networking is over-rated/not-need for finding corporate jobs. My experience!, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/systemic-oppression-of-non-target-students?customgpt=1
I’m from NJ but went to Boston for school. Long story short, it’s going to be VERY tough. No way of sugarcoating it (especially with today’s internship and job market). If you’re staying at Rowan, it’s a big stretch
Youre an intern at a travel agency, which is not relevant to front office roles in finance, while even your nontarget peers have obtained more relevant experience which will set them up for next year's internships. Youre a soph which probably makes it harder to transfer out to a target school.
Lets not talk abt actual target school kids who already have relevant internships who are far ahead of you.
The ship has sailed, life moves fast. Focus your efforts elsewhere.
Time to play the long game by working towards yourself into a high-impact role (something like GE's fmp) then recruit into a top mba
I don't think it's necessarily "over" but you will have to dedicate your life to it if you wanna have a chance. You're still only a sophomore which is pretty early on - for example, I got my first finance internship summer after Junior year and locked it down in like late May. I came from an extreme non-target and managed to get into a couple quasi-buy-side roles and have a good career so far. You're not gonna be working in MFPE most likely but IB and some LMM PE funds may give you a chance.
First of all, transfer to a better school as soon as humanly possible. Get a better internship in anything finance related - think wealth management, commercial banking (risk), equity research, whatever. What exactly makes you think you can do AM then go M7 then top PE? Probably not gonna happen with that plan. You need deal reps.
To answer your question, networking definitely helps but you need some level of branding. Ask everyone you know for connections, email everyone, connect with everyone on LI - treat this as a full-time job. Stay involved in school ECs. Honestly, quit your internship and focus on your goals. A travel agency is gonna get you nowhere.
PE at a top tier firm is not happening post MBA unless you have PE at a top tier firm pre-MBA. Respectfully the ship has sailed by 90% given your current progress. There are plenty of non-target kids with much better profiles than you. It’s not impossible to catch up but will likely require you to delay grad or do some tangential roles to eventually lateral
Gonna be totally honest here out of best interest for you - the only route if you don't secure a good IB offer in college is to transfer to a target or semi-trarget school and (take an extra year of school so you can recruit), or do an IB associate role out of a T25 MBA and then explore ANY PE job (not just the "top tier" ones). As someone else mentioned, you're not getting PE at anything above LMM (and even then it's VERY tough) without prior IB or PE experience (preferably both) - so I'd be honest about what you think your current chances to get those IB SA roles are and either plan for a transfer or just commit yourself to the MBA path and get started on the GRE/GMAT starting next year.
A little more context, although I doubt any of you will see my comment. I took the travel intern position from a family member, as I could not land anything for during the year. I’m aiming for private equity as my end goal post MBA. Before that however, I’m pushing as much as I can for AM at Goldman or JPM, or equal.
Nothing new here that you didn't say in your main post. AM, even at the best manager in the world, does not make any sense if your goal is PE in the end. Like I said, you need deal reps. You either go IB out of undergrad, or IB out of MBA, but you cannot skip it. You simply do not have the background for that to be feasible.
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