Warwick vs Emory

Hi all,

I’m an international student currently choosing between Warwick (Accounting & Finance) and Emory (Finance). My long-term goal is a career in high finance, specifically Markets (Sales & Trading) or Hedge Funds/Asset Management

As far as I know Warwick is a target for London, with pipelines into top IB and hedge funds. But the UK market is smaller, and a later move to NYC is questionable; some mention the need for US MFin/MBA, while others claim internal transfer is plausible (given L-1 visa process is much easier).

Emory is a semi-target for NYC, but places well into boutiques. I reckon this path is more risky; there's a huge H-1B lottery risk (especially for a Russian national in the current climate). Plus, I'm not a fan of the 2-year Liberal Arts Gen-Ed requirements before hitting the business school.

Emory is 4 years and 90k per year; Warwick is 3 years and 50k. 

Is it better to take the sure thing in Warwick, get the technical foundation early, and attempt a lateral move to NYC after 2 years of experience? Or is it worth the $360k all-in bet on Emory despite the visa lottery risk and the delayed specialization?

I've always viewed the US as a meritocracy where grinding pays off, is that still the case for internationals at semi-targets in this macro environment?

Would appreciate any insights, especially regarding the feasibility of London -> NYC lateral transfers early in the career. Thanks

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's what you need to consider:

  1. Warwick's Strengths:

    • Warwick is a strong target for London, particularly for Investment Banking (IB), Hedge Funds (HF), and Asset Management (AM). It has a solid pipeline into top firms in the UK.
    • The UK market is smaller, but Warwick's reputation ensures access to Spring Weeks and internships, which are critical for breaking into high finance.
    • A lateral move from London to NYC is possible, especially through internal transfers, as the L-1 visa process is more straightforward than the H-1B lottery. However, this path is not guaranteed and may require additional qualifications like an MBA or MFin later.
  2. Emory's Position:

    • Emory is considered a semi-target for NYC, with decent placement into boutiques and some larger firms. However, it does not have the same level of access to top-tier IB and HF roles as Warwick does for London.
    • The H-1B visa lottery is a significant risk for internationals, especially given the current geopolitical climate. This could make staying in the US post-graduation challenging.
    • The Liberal Arts Gen-Ed requirements at Emory may delay your specialization in finance, which could be a disadvantage compared to Warwick's focused curriculum.
  3. Cost and Duration:

    • Warwick is a 3-year program at $50k per year, making it significantly more affordable than Emory's 4-year program at $90k per year. The cost difference is substantial, especially when considering the uncertainty of visa outcomes in the US.
  4. London to NYC Feasibility:

    • Moving from London to NYC early in your career is feasible but not guaranteed. Internal transfers are the most common route, and Warwick's strong alumni network in London could help facilitate this. However, you may need to pursue further education in the US (MBA/MFin) to solidify your position in NYC.
  5. US Meritocracy and Macro Environment:

    • While the US has traditionally been seen as a meritocracy, the current macro environment and visa challenges make it more difficult for internationals at semi-targets like Emory to secure and retain roles in high finance.

Recommendation:

Given your goals in high finance and the outlined factors, Warwick appears to be the safer and more cost-effective choice. It offers a strong technical foundation, direct access to the London market, and a more affordable path to your career goals. While Emory provides a potential route to NYC, the visa risks, higher costs, and delayed specialization make it a less certain bet in your situation.

Sources: Q&A: Equity Analyst at a Sovereign Wealth/Pension Fund, Target schools outside of the US?, MSc Finance Warwick vs Nova SBE vs ESSEC, Bocconi vs. Warwick, KCL vs Warwick

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Grinding pays off but you also need to assimilate and be extremely sharp. It's not like India where grinding just means memorising formulas to get good grades.

I say this because your view seems to be biased towards US as if it's any easier getting in / climbing the ladder there than the UK. It's not. And going to Emory (on top of being an international guy who, sorry to say, seems to know jackshit about the industry) will disadvantage you further.

Go to Warwick. Plenty of internationals there who have done well for themselves through exposure via their hardo finance clubs.

Do NOT plan anything based on a potential transfer in many years between the two most competitive job markets in the most competitive industry. That's dumb, especially since you're not from either of those markets and don't have a real valid reason to build a life in either one (yet).

Solve for the NEXT big goal - which is getting a job in high finance. Go to Warwick and work your ass off.

Good luck.

 

Emory for sure if you can pay. Right now the UK is in a situation of crisis... Salaries in the US are exponentially better also :)

 

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