Why IU Kelley Is A Target School

-180 kids do IB. Around 120 will be FO, while the rest are MO and BO. IBW and CMBW workshops are a straight pipeline to FO banking and it is doable to get into at least the CMBW with a 3.6+.

-Consulting is the most common job for Kelley graduates (hundreds of kids). These are mostly big 4 and boutique consulting forms, as MBB only takes 5 kids a year.

-Around 80+ kids are in asset management (position, not industry). The kids in the Invesment Management Workshop go straight to big hedge funds and big time ER, while the kids who aren't in IMW will still have nice ER and investment/wealth management jobs.

-Kelley Finance graduates last year made an average salary of $68,500. Let's Compare this to other Target Schools. Mccombs ($70,000), Ross ($72,000), and Haas ($75,000). Kelley is just right behind even though these schools place into NY and SF (High COL cities) way more than Kelley.

Think about this Harvard kids with a 3.5+ will get into top investment banks and consulting firms. Kelley kids need a 3.7+ to get into the top firms. Obviously, Kelley is no where near Harvard, but it's not too far behind some major target schools.

Sources- https://kelley.iu.edu/recruiters-companies/underg…

https://kelley.iu.edu/doc/bloomington/ucso/ucs-an…

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  • Intern in IB-M&A
2y

Jesus Christ stfu all these posts just makes your school look like shit as if everyone there is insecure. Just get your bread and move on God damn

  • Associate 2 in Other
2y

Dude, Kelley is a top tier school among the likes of Wharton/Stern/Ross/Cornell/Harvard/Princeton/Duke/Yale/Stanford

It's basically this rank: HYPSWSRCDKelley.

  • Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
2y

Sure IU is a target school for a number of banks but it is not prestigious. Hoosier daddy?? Certainly not HYPS or MIT or UChi or Duke or Wharton or...

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  • Prospect in IB-M&A
2y

Definitely agree it's not close to as prestigious as those other schools, but the numbers do not lie about Kelley. It's super close to Ross and Haas, but obviously it's nowhere near the schools you named

  • Intern in IB-M&A
2y

What do you mean by "it's not too far behind some major schools?" Sure if my only other choice is ball fucking state university I'll go to IU, but I'm not gonna pick it over UVA/UNC/UT/Mich/Berkeley, much less Ivies, Stanford, Duke. Credit to IU for developing at least somewhat of a pipeline to finance from middle of nowhere Indiana, but people don't choose colleges just to maximize their first job right out of college. The brand sticks with you for your life, and no offense, UVA, Michigan and the rest are way better for that. IU is arguably the best safety school you can find if you strike out everywhere else but know you want to do finance. Don't make it any bigger than that. For Christ's sake the school has a 70% acceptance rate. What other school you're comparing it to has that?

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PC2019, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Just wanted to say that IU Kelley is Top-Tier in providing consolidated information on career opportunities (the source PDFs and the IBW website)

My school had nothing like that and we were essentially on our own as far as finding where alumni were (LinkedIn) or what companies actually targeted us

Respect, but no one really cares what is and isn't a target once you graduate tbh

  • Intern in IB-M&A
2y

I don't think KKR has very inclusive recruiting efforts

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
2y

LOL. I meant the kids who aren't able to get FO work end up doing something in middle and back office. This is true for any school really.

  • VP in PE - LBOs
2y

I'd double check your math there bucko... 120 FO kids sounds like wayyyyyy too many. BBs have analyst classes of what, 100-150 every year? Including EBs and MMs, that's maybe 2,000 analysts a year at firms worth working for. I highly doubt 5%+ are from just Indiana.

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  • Prospect in IB-M&A
2y

It is a lot of kids, but Kelley is a HUGE school. 80 kids from IBW get jobs straight to FO BB and top MM.

There's another workshop called CMBW at Kelley. Another 30 kids from this workshop do FO banking with half of them at BB and the other half in EB and MM.

I'm guessing another 10-15 kids who are not in the workshops do FO work due to connections.

The rest are MO and BO

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  • Associate 2 in Other
2y

I picked IU over Wharton. Haven't regretted it once!

  • Associate 2 in Other
2y

got to have lots a sex with those midwestern chicks and am a true Hoosier through and through.

chillin in my cushy job at bmo capital markets which is basically the Goldman of the Midwest, got the same exit ops and the same pay really

life is great go sig ep

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  • VP in PE - LBOs
2y

I will say, IU kids seems like they're genuinely nice unlike the hardos you see coming out of Michigan and Texas. No Dealbreaker scandals or belligerent emails to prospective employers.

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
2y

Yeah cause all u kids care about prestige.

Refute my facts kid

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
2y

Who do you think you are to go around calling everyone else a kid? You're a 19 year old prospect at one of the worst semi-targets across the nation who is shitting on anyone who disagrees with him.

  • Intern in IB-M&A
2y

Sure the workshop is great but no one is any rejecting UT, Michigan or any target in favour of going to IU and no one is rejecting JPM, GS in favour of RBC. I am not sure why you seem to be so defensive when no one cares about their alma matter or whether their co workers went to a target or not.

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
2y

All this shit does is give your school a bad name. Same with the RBC threads. If I were currently in a hiring position, I would be pretty biased against IU/RBC simply based off of the attitudes that I've seen on this forum.

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
2y

I'm just being realistic and using facts. Never once did I say IU is better than Wharton or ivy or ross

2y
bigmoney19, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Prospect in IB-M&A:
-Kelley Finance graduates last year made an average salary of $68,500. Let's Compare this to other Target Schools. Mccombs ($70,000), Ross ($72,000), and Haas ($75,000). Kelley is just right behind even though these schools place into NY and SF (High COL cities) way more than Kelley.
Wtf does this point even mean? Aren't you arguing about IU Kelley being a target? We can throw out statistics all day, hell, in the United States we produce 217 billion pounds of milk. Bet you didn't know that one.
2y
bigmoney19, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Prospect in IB-M&A:
It means that the statistics are similar, although many consider IU to be a lot less.
Your argument is about Kelley being a target school for Investment Banking. Doesn't matter if you graduate from Kelley or Harvard, if you get a GS offer you're still going to make 85k, so I'm confused as to how the salary statistic is relevant
  • Analyst 1 in PropTrad
2y

Dude you messed your numbers up lol. As per YOUR OWN REPORT, there were 1,394 active job seekers at Kelley, and 8% of them worked in IB. At the very most, (not accounting for the ambiguous figures the report listed to not have found employment) that's 112 students. And nowhere does it mention how many were FO or BO – you must have invented that figure yourself (but my experience tells me that the ratio of BO to FO is much higher at Kelley than at top targets). How can we trust the Kelley boaster to convince us to attend his alma matter when he can't even perform basic arithmetic or research?

  • Analyst 1 in PropTrad
2y

Dude, your own report that YOU cited disproves you. Who knows more, you, or the Career Services Department?

2y
Goya Beans, what's your opinion? Comment below:

THE most prestigious pedigree is being a UI Kelly graduate and an RBC analyst

To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering.

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  • Intern in IB - Gen
2y

have never seen more insecure shit in my life.. no one thinks of Indiana University as a good school regardless of whether banks hire them just because they can do some accounting and valuation technical questions

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vs3001, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Dude this sort of insecurity only worsens people's perception of Kelley. You can certainly go there, hustle and break into BB but to say its a target is laughable.

Forget HYPW and the likes, its not even close to UMich Ross or any of the other top publics. Your information about Ross salary is incorrect too, not sure where you cherry picked your stats from.

https://michiganross.umich.edu/ross-news-blog/2019/11/01/latest-year-s-michigan-ross-bba-employment-report-shows-spike-salary

Median base salary is $78500 and median comp is $88500

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
2y

It was 72,000 the same year when Kelley's was 68,500. Kelley hasn't done it for this year yet.

And semi target not target

2y
SquareMileMonkey, what's your opinion? Comment below:

If you need to make a thread explaining why your school is a target school, it probably isn't.

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Bullet-Tooth Tony, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Prospect in IB-M&A:
-180 kids do IB. Around 120 will be FO, while the rest are MO and BO. IBW and CMBW workshops are a straight pipeline to FO banking and it is doable to get into at least the CMBW with a 3.6+.

-Consulting is the most common job for Kelley graduates (hundreds of kids). These are mostly big 4 and boutique consulting forms, as MBB only takes 5 kids a year.

-Around 80+ kids are in asset management (position, not industry). The kids in the Invesment Management Workshop go straight to big hedge funds and big time ER, while the kids who aren't in IMW will still have nice ER and investment/wealth management jobs.

-Kelley Finance graduates last year made an average salary of $68,500. Let's Compare this to other Target Schools. Mccombs ($70,000), Ross ($72,000), and Haas ($75,000). Kelley is just right behind even though these schools place into NY and SF (High COL cities) way more than Kelley.

Think about this Harvard kids with a 3.5+ will get into top investment banks and consulting firms. Kelley kids need a 3.7+ to get into the top firms. Obviously, Kelley is no where near Harvard, but it's not too far behind some major target schools.

Sources- https://kelley.iu.edu/recruiters-companies/undergrad/statistics/salary-statistics/index.cshtml

https://kelley.iu.edu/doc/bloomington/ucso/ucs-annual-report.pdf

You are an embarrassment to Kelley as far as I'm concerned. And if you are going to make a post like this, making it anonymously is a chickenshit way to do it.

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
2y

Good luck OP. I hope you can suck enough Kelley alumni dick at banks to get hired, because after talking to you I don't think anyone would ever give you a second chance. You've embarrassingly failed to even correctly post anonymously, showing an absolute lack of attention to detail. Good job tarnishing the reputation of your school, I'm sure everyone in this thread will now be extremely happy to help out any IU kid. :)

  • Intern in IB - Gen
2y

This kid is an freshman that is pulling out random inaccurate statistics out of his ass. I don't know why he is putting so much effort trying to prove the IBW is a target when he won't even get in because of his own insecurity.

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benjokal, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I know kids from my HS who go there and none of them were particularly impressive academically. Some of those kids were even borderline to get into our instate flagship based on their stats. I think the main difference between Kelley and the state school I go to is that its career services and professional extracurricular opportunities are way better. The admissions stats are the same. I wouldn't waste money going to Kelley if you're from the NE. Not hard getting a similar outcome from instate if you have good grades and do some networking.

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