Why IU Kelley Is A Target School
-180 kids do IB. Around 120 will be FO, while the rest are MO and BO. IBW and CMBW workshops are a straight pipeline to FO banking and it is doable to get into at least the CMBW with a 3.6+.
-Consulting is the most common job for Kelley graduates (hundreds of kids). These are mostly big 4 and boutique consulting forms, as MBB only takes 5 kids a year.
-Around 80+ kids are in asset management (position, not industry). The kids in the Invesment Management Workshop go straight to big hedge funds and big time ER, while the kids who aren't in IMW will still have nice ER and investment/wealth management jobs.
-Kelley Finance graduates last year made an average salary of $68,500. Let's Compare this to other Target Schools. Mccombs ($70,000), Ross ($72,000), and Haas ($75,000). Kelley is just right behind even though these schools place into NY and SF (High COL cities) way more than Kelley.
Think about this Harvard kids with a 3.5+ will get into top investment banks and consulting firms. Kelley kids need a 3.7+ to get into the top firms. Obviously, Kelley is no where near Harvard, but it's not too far behind some major target schools.
Lol
Jesus Christ stfu all these posts just makes your school look like shit as if everyone there is insecure. Just get your bread and move on God damn
Cut it out kid
Dude, Kelley is a top tier school among the likes of Wharton/Stern/Ross/Cornell/Harvard/Princeton/Duke/Yale/Stanford
It’s basically this rank: HYPSWSRCDKelley.
That acronym gave me an aneurysm. Should just be HYPSWKelley.
Egregious Ross trolling itp
What a mistake this kid made
Sure IU is a target school for a number of banks but it is not prestigious. Hoosier daddy?? Certainly not HYPS or MIT or UChi or Duke or Wharton or...
Definitely agree it's not close to as prestigious as those other schools, but the numbers do not lie about Kelley. It's super close to Ross and Haas, but obviously it's nowhere near the schools you named
What do you mean by "it's not too far behind some major schools?" Sure if my only other choice is ball fucking state university I'll go to IU, but I'm not gonna pick it over UVA/UNC/UT/Mich/Berkeley, much less Ivies, Stanford, Duke. Credit to IU for developing at least somewhat of a pipeline to finance from middle of nowhere Indiana, but people don't choose colleges just to maximize their first job right out of college. The brand sticks with you for your life, and no offense, UVA, Michigan and the rest are way better for that. IU is arguably the best safety school you can find if you strike out everywhere else but know you want to do finance. Don't make it any bigger than that. For Christ's sake the school has a 70% acceptance rate. What other school you're comparing it to has that?
Just wanted to say that IU Kelley is Top-Tier in providing consolidated information on career opportunities (the source PDFs and the IBW website)
My school had nothing like that and we were essentially on our own as far as finding where alumni were (LinkedIn) or what companies actually targeted us
Respect, but no one really cares what is and isn't a target once you graduate tbh
I don't think KKR has very inclusive recruiting efforts
Oh, almost forgot - kinda weird to have to differentiate between FO and MO/BO "Banking"
I didn't know there are target schools for back office
LOL. I meant the kids who aren't able to get FO work end up doing something in middle and back office. This is true for any school really.
I'd double check your math there bucko... 120 FO kids sounds like wayyyyyy too many. BBs have analyst classes of what, 100-150 every year? Including EBs and MMs, that's maybe 2,000 analysts a year at firms worth working for. I highly doubt 5%+ are from just Indiana.
It is a lot of kids, but Kelley is a HUGE school. 80 kids from IBW get jobs straight to FO BB and top MM.
There's another workshop called CMBW at Kelley. Another 30 kids from this workshop do FO banking with half of them at BB and the other half in EB and MM.
I'm guessing another 10-15 kids who are not in the workshops do FO work due to connections.
The rest are MO and BO
I picked IU over Wharton. Haven’t regretted it once!
Damn. I love IU, but not that much haha
got to have lots a sex with those midwestern chicks and am a true Hoosier through and through.
chillin in my cushy job at bmo capital markets which is basically the Goldman of the Midwest, got the same exit ops and the same pay really
life is great go sig ep
jk fuck sig ep go phi tau.
Greekrank is where the real chads go on anyway
Sounds like a better life than 99% of the strivers here
I will say, IU kids seems like they're genuinely nice unlike the hardos you see coming out of Michigan and Texas. No Dealbreaker scandals or belligerent emails to prospective employers.
IU is the RBC of colleges
Yeah cause all u kids care about prestige.
Refute my facts kid
Who do you think you are to go around calling everyone else a kid? You're a 19 year old prospect at one of the worst semi-targets across the nation who is shitting on anyone who disagrees with him.
Sure the workshop is great but no one is any rejecting UT, Michigan or any target in favour of going to IU and no one is rejecting JPM, GS in favour of RBC. I am not sure why you seem to be so defensive when no one cares about their alma matter or whether their co workers went to a target or not.
All this shit does is give your school a bad name. Same with the RBC threads. If I were currently in a hiring position, I would be pretty biased against IU/RBC simply based off of the attitudes that I've seen on this forum.
I'm just being realistic and using facts. Never once did I say IU is better than Wharton or ivy or ross
It means that the statistics are similar, although many consider IU to be a lot less.
Dude you messed your numbers up lol. As per YOUR OWN REPORT, there were 1,394 active job seekers at Kelley, and 8% of them worked in IB. At the very most, (not accounting for the ambiguous figures the report listed to not have found employment) that's 112 students. And nowhere does it mention how many were FO or BO – you must have invented that figure yourself (but my experience tells me that the ratio of BO to FO is much higher at Kelley than at top targets). How can we trust the Kelley boaster to convince us to attend his alma matter when he can't even perform basic arithmetic or research?
Dude, I go here why do you think you know more than me?
14% of 1000 finance majors got in. That's 140 kids already.
Dude, your own report that YOU cited disproves you. Who knows more, you, or the Career Services Department?
THE most prestigious pedigree is being a UI Kelly graduate and an RBC analyst
Ok "DDqjwopp"
have never seen more insecure shit in my life.. no one thinks of Indiana University as a good school regardless of whether banks hire them just because they can do some accounting and valuation technical questions
Tell that to the rankings
Yeah, rank 79 in the nation LMFAO
Dude this sort of insecurity only worsens people's perception of Kelley. You can certainly go there, hustle and break into BB but to say its a target is laughable.
Forget HYPW and the likes, its not even close to UMich Ross or any of the other top publics. Your information about Ross salary is incorrect too, not sure where you cherry picked your stats from.
https://michiganross.umich.edu/ross-news-blog/2019/11/01/latest-year-s-…
Median base salary is $78500 and median comp is $88500
It was 72,000 the same year when Kelley's was 68,500. Kelley hasn't done it for this year yet.
And semi target not target
This thread is the equivalent of a bunch of chimps arguing about which banana tree in the neighborhood is the best. Hilarious
If you need to make a thread explaining why your school is a target school, it probably isn't.
You are an embarrassment to Kelley as far as I'm concerned. And if you are going to make a post like this, making it anonymously is a chickenshit way to do it.
TIL about the existence of IU-Kelley.
Mixed bag
Good luck OP. I hope you can suck enough Kelley alumni dick at banks to get hired, because after talking to you I don't think anyone would ever give you a second chance. You've embarrassingly failed to even correctly post anonymously, showing an absolute lack of attention to detail. Good job tarnishing the reputation of your school, I'm sure everyone in this thread will now be extremely happy to help out any IU kid. :)
This kid is an freshman that is pulling out random inaccurate statistics out of his ass. I don't know why he is putting so much effort trying to prove the IBW is a target when he won't even get in because of his own insecurity.
Shut up dude ur a prospect
Calling McCombs, Ross, and Haas target schools is a misnomer. They're great schools and place well, but ideally they're top semitargets at best. Top targets are HYPSW, lower targets are the rest of the Ivies, UChicago, Duke, etc. The only public school that is a target, and it's debatable, is UVA.
I know kids from my HS who go there and none of them were particularly impressive academically. Some of those kids were even borderline to get into our instate flagship based on their stats. I think the main difference between Kelley and the state school I go to is that its career services and professional extracurricular opportunities are way better. The admissions stats are the same. I wouldn't waste money going to Kelley if you're from the NE. Not hard getting a similar outcome from instate if you have good grades and do some networking.
Does anyone have advice on how competitive the CMBW is, how to set myself up, and more about what it is? Thanks
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