MSF to Extend IB Recruiting Timeline?

Transferred from community college to a semi-target during junior year, so I missed a large part of the traditional IB recruiting timeline. I currently have a summer internship in wealth management, but long term I want investment banking.

My school offers a combined undergrad/MSF program that would let me stay an extra 3 semesters while remaining eligible for analyst recruiting. The main appeal is getting additional recruiting cycles and potentially multiple shots at summer analyst recruiting that could convert into a full-time offer.

The downside is obviously tuition and lost earnings since I would likely be paying $100K+ instead of taking a full-time WM role after graduation. I also know MBA Associate recruiting can be more difficult.

One thing I’m still unclear on is whether MSF students are generally even eligible for IB summer analyst recruiting, or if most banks mainly reserve SA spots for undergrads.

Curious if people think this is a reasonable strategy or if it would make more sense just to take the WM role after graduation and revisit banking later through an MBA.

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, pursuing an MSF to extend your IB recruiting timeline can be a reasonable strategy, but it comes with trade-offs that you need to weigh carefully. Here's what you should consider:

Eligibility for IB Summer Analyst Recruiting

  • MSF students are generally eligible for IB summer analyst recruiting, especially if you're part of a combined undergrad/MSF program. Banks often treat students in these programs as undergrads for recruiting purposes, which means you could have multiple shots at securing a summer analyst role.
  • However, some banks may prioritize traditional undergrads for SA spots, so networking and positioning yourself effectively will be crucial.

Advantages of the MSF Route

  1. Extended Recruiting Timeline: Staying for an additional 3 semesters gives you access to more recruiting cycles, increasing your chances of landing a summer analyst role that could convert into a full-time offer.
  2. Improved Profile: The MSF program could help you build a stronger resume, especially if you can secure relevant internships or gain technical skills during the program.
  3. Networking Opportunities: Being in school longer allows you to leverage on-campus recruiting events, alumni networks, and other resources to build connections in the industry.

Downsides to Consider

  1. Cost: The $100K+ tuition and lost earnings are significant. You'll need to assess whether the potential payoff of breaking into IB justifies this investment.
  2. Opportunity Cost: Taking the WM role after graduation would allow you to start earning immediately and potentially revisit IB later through an MBA or lateral hiring.
  3. MBA Recruiting Challenges: If you pursue the MSF now, you may face more difficulty transitioning to IB at the associate level through an MBA later, as banks often prefer candidates with pre-MBA IB experience.

Alternative Path

  • If you're unsure about the MSF route, you could consider taking the WM role and focusing on networking and lateral hiring into IB. Smaller banks or boutique firms may be more open to hiring candidates with non-traditional backgrounds, especially if you can demonstrate strong technical skills and a genuine interest in IB.

Final Thoughts

The MSF route can be a viable strategy if you're committed to breaking into IB and willing to invest the time and money. However, success will depend on how effectively you leverage the program for recruiting opportunities. If the financial burden is too high or you're uncertain about the payoff, taking the WM role and exploring lateral or MBA options later might be a safer bet.

Sources: MSF Question and Answer, 2018 Sophomore Summer Analyst Recruiting Megathread Page, How I've managed to break into IB from a non-target (work in progress), 43 Diversity Recruiting Programs at Investment Banks - The Most Exhaustive List

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What caliber of progam are you talking about with the MSF?

If its G-Town/Vandy/an equivalent type degree at a school like MIT or Chicago then you have a case for doing it.

If not then it's gonna be money down the drain and wont give you a real advantage in recruiting.

Take the WM role, save yourself the debt, and gain some money and work experience. Then focus on nailing the gmat and try for an MBA.

Many MBA programs in the top 20 will give you a good shot at associate recruiting. Even top 30 if you play your cards right and are willing to look at T2 cities. The MSF on the other hand won't move the needle much if it's not one of those programs I mentioned.

 

It’s USC. My main concern with the MBA path is that even with a T10/T15 MBA, I may still not be competitive for associate recruiting if my pre-MBA background is mostly wealth management and not something more technical like IB/corporate banking/accounting.

 

So a couple things, first being that by you taking the WM internship does not mean you can’t recruit FT for jobs like corporate finance/valuations, which I believe can get you into a decent MBA in T20.

Second, MSF is not a magic ticket to IB. If it was difficult recruiting in UG for IB then it won’t get easier just because you have a WM internship and a masters title. 100k is an enormous amount with very little guarantee of landing IB. I would try even U Chicago/Vandy/Georgetown which all. Should be cheaper than USC.

 

So obviously good school, dont know where their MSF ranks, still leaning towards no though.

You dont necessarily need to have a perfectly lined up work experience before the MBA, just need to show analytical rigor, leadership, and have a story for "Why Banking."

Any reasonn you couldnt do the WM role for a year or two and then switch to corp fin/something similar with more analytical rigor? Perhaps take some modeling course or do other quant based supplemental work on the side to fill in any gaps you might have?

 

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