Baruch MSF vs. Clark MSF vs. DePaul MSF vs. IIT MSF

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Hi everybody,

This is my first post. I wish I could find this excellent website earlier before me applying for the MSF programs months before.

Being an international(Asian) undergraduate student, recently I got admission to four MSF programs: Baruch CUNY MSF(MS, not the executive MSF), Clark MSF, DePaul MSF, IIT MSF.
And I am also waiting for the admissions of the Pace MSF, UT Dallas MSF, Maryland MSF, and the Fordham MSGF.

Right now I am pretty unsure about which one is better.

Being an international student major in Economics, I am aware that it might be extremely difficult for me to get a job in U.S. after my graduation from a MSF program. However, since my undergraduate school has a rather poor brand and curriculum, I do want to gain a better brand, some internship experiences and a better alumni connection though a MSF program to begin my career in finance.

Honestly speaking, I haven't made a clear career path. And right now I'm looking forward to focus on corporate finance area or rather pursue a PhD degree in Finance area.

I sincerely hope you guys could give me some views about the choices between these MSF program choices or my career or anything related, I will update my admission status and keep replying to your guys.

Again, thank you guys!

Comments (21)

Mar 9, 2015

Really? Why did you say that?

Mar 9, 2015

Fargo is correct. The alumni network is not strong and neither is the brand

Mar 9, 2015

Thank you for your reply, and would you like to give me some status view of other programs? like the UTD MSF, Clark MSF ... ? I will be very thankful to your replies.

Mar 9, 2015

As you mentioned, it will be very difficult for you to get a job in the U.S. being an international student. The problem with these MSFs is that none of them are going to really add much brand value to your resume, as WUSTL or Vanderbilt might.

Mar 9, 2015

Thank you for your straight advice.
Since I want to get access to the financial industry(Honestly speaking, more likely in my own country) with a relative knowledge reserve(my undergraduate study involves quite little about finance) and with a CFA Level 2 certificate, to what extent will these CFA courses benefit me? I sincerely wish you can give me your point of view, thanks.

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Mar 10, 2015

Go to baurch

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Mar 10, 2015

Thanks for your advice, are there any particular reasons that made you suggest this choice? The Brauch MSF program just launched in 2014 Fall, so there is no specific data or OCR about this program, would you like to share some information with me? Thanks again :)

Mar 10, 2015

Of the choices presented in your original post and in the title of this thread, Baruch is your best option. This is the result of Baruch having (a) a better name brand and (b) being located in the center of Manhattan, which will translate into a much higher chance of obtaining relevant, internship experience (which is key for internationals).

If the scope of potential schools widens to include Vanderbilt, Villanova or WUSTL, then my recommendation would change.

Mar 10, 2015

Hey, any reason you didn't apply for more well-known MSFs like Vandy, Nova, CMC? Those ones will probably give you the best chance of getting a Visa to work in the US after graduation. With those MSFs you listed, not only is the brand name weak but I don't think companies would be as willing to hire internationals when you're competing with internationals from the schools I mentioned..

Mar 10, 2015

Thanks for your advice, I didn't apply the more well-known MSFs because of my rather weak background(GPA 3.2, Toefl 104, GMAT 640, without and financial-related intern experience. I have to admit, shamefully, that I didn't make full use of my time during my undergraduate study).
While I haven't made my final decision(say, to go to U.S. and spend quite a lot of money on these not-well-known programs) yet, what kind of financial-related experience do you think will help me get a better chance to apply for those well-known programs?
On the other hand, I am confused that will it be rather "better choice" for me to change to MSA programs since all the programs I applied are all MSF programs.
Thanks again for your advice.

Mar 10, 2015

don't go to baruch....unless it's the MFE. MSF doesn't have dr stefanica and you will have a bad time. IF NY is you target city, go to villanova or BC or even vanderbilty. All of them are great schools. Also WUSTL but STL is not my favorite location but again, to each their own

Mar 10, 2015

Thanks again for your advice.
Besides the Baruch MSF, I only applied for the Fordham MSGF and the Pace MSF, since I may not have a rather competitive background(GPA 3.2, Toefl 104, GMAT 640, without and financial-related intern experience) for the target schools as you have mentioned.
Right now I am pretty confused about my choice in applying for those non-target schools, would you be kind enough to offer me other advices?
Thanks again.

Mar 10, 2015

apply to Duke MMS. I think you can get in, with your profile. Or Tulane MFin. Maybe OSU and SMU Cox. They're all great programs. Better than baruch. Location doesn't matter. I've seen CMC kids network their way into NY IB.

Mar 12, 2015

At this point most international deadlines for programs have passed so it'll be hard for you to apply elsewhere. I would echo Esuric and recommend going to Baruch so you can leverage the alumni network as well as being located in the middle of Manhattan.

Mar 12, 2015

Thank you for your advice, I will think carefully before my final decision. :)

Mar 12, 2015

tbh, all these programs r garbages... 95% of the students r chinese who can barely speak some english...

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Mar 12, 2015

Well, I have to admit there truly are huge amounts of Chinese people in those programs...

Mar 13, 2015

you must check with the alumni. since the programs are not like MIT or Princeton MFin, your chances will be more regional.

agree with Baruch in NYC is an advantage, but also everyone wants to go to NYC--anywhere. (that's where competition kick in)

all in all, don't expect a job until your profile is stronger & have more alumni connections. I see WUSTL grad going to GS with international Visa--it depends

Mar 16, 2015

Thank you for your advice, very appreciate.

Apr 2, 2015
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