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GS?
Goldman loves their URM's
You jelly?
JPM?
By tracking OP's previous posts it is not that hard to figure out the BB ;)
...haha, definitely wasn't the point of the thread--was just meant to help people curious about schools...
Way to rep PSU...
SMU more than UT/Rice wtf
I was surprised at that as well considering that every bulge and boutique recruits at UT (including for new york). Also surprised TCU didn't have one as they usually have at least 1 kid per bank, it seems. Prob year to year thing.
1 kid per bank might be stretching it, but TCU did well this year. Placed 5 SA (3 of which BB)
Baylor stuck out to me
Of course man, Southern Millionaries University. There are only 3 kinds of kids who go there one kids whos parents worked in the industry, two kids whos parents hired industry firms, and kids on scholarship.
how the hell did you come up with this list?
Well, maybe your top 50 LAC (I believe you are referring to Williams with 6 people vs 3 from Yale) has a strong alum base at this BB. Perhaps same goes for UVA (5 people).
Anyone can. I still have my analyst class email at my BB, you know the one they send out to all incoming analysts? Its not that hard.
JPM
You sure this is complete? NO ONE from Dartmouth and 1 from Columbia? That surprising if true.
And LOL at all the Penn State/OSU Honors program love, 3 between 2 schools with over 30,000 students in the senior class.
You're an idiot if you think we have over 30,000 in our senior class, but thanks for playing.
all across the board
BTW that is a huge as* SA class. ... did a rough count, > 150 summer analyst???
Another BB SA
Top representation: Harvard Princeton Cornell Georgetown Wharton
Others: Columbia Brown BC Michigan Wellesley Williams Dartmouth Carleton Amherst Indiana Vanderbilt NYU Lehigh GW Colgate
few other schools
For JPM--4 from Miami U of Ohio? Interesting
JPM.
Surprised by only 1 Columbia, that must be a target for them!
^
The list 2 posts above sounds like CS. They love their Georgetowns for whatever reason.
kind of disturbing: there are 12 kids from Georgetown coming in as FT IBD analysts at another BB this year.. all NYC office.. makes them No1 in front of UPenn/Wharton (10).
BarCap?
They seem to love the fratstars
Guys, I think you don't understand..this is ONE BANK. I read it the first time and was like...wtf I know at like 15 people working at BB from my school and this says 5? But its a single bank, so its possible its right. Also possible that he just put down random numbers to troll hard.
no this is legit. I go to one of the schools on the list and know the JPM kids for this summer. the number for our school is correct at least
I think this is JPMorgan because of the uncharacteristically larger Baruch representation. JPM tends not to take a very elitist stance on Baruch.
Hey Vox, is this list Global or just the US? It doesn't include London / Asia analysts right?
hahahahahaha, definitely just US offices.
Could you imagine if this were global!?
"Surprise all you eager LSE kids! Guess what! You're all fucked!"
lol
on that note HEY CANADIAN KIDS--I don't care where you go. Your Wall Street placement sucks.
US only
^ lol, true dat. As if London didn't have enough student protests as of late...
interesting.... thanks for taking the time to post this.
Surprised Baruch got 4. Must be JPM
Florida Agr and Mechanic --- Lol
Bethune-Cookman College
lol.
Which JPM regional offices are there? ...and this list includes them? interesting.
Georgia IT lol, GA tech?
there's chicago, san fran, dallas, toronto, houston, LA, and calgary
Georgia Tech is a great school.
The random southern schools represented in the sample are (most likely) OVERWHELMINGLY going to the Houston and Atlanta offices
And to people wondering--Bethune-Cookman and FLA Ag. are traditionally black colleges.
For the two from SMU, one is going to Houston and the other NY.
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It's JPM, some of those seemingly oddball names are Black Ivies or HBCUs. Plus the dead giveaway is Baruch.
Wow, Columbia and Dartmouth aren't so great when it comes to representation at JPM. I know that Columbia has placed well in the past 2-3 years and even had a huge presentation on campus, but I guess it didn't translate into summer positions.
or the kids could have all taken offers at other firms...
Or he could be talking about JPM...
Yes, but banks also keep people in on hold. All schools have the problem that students take offers from competing firms. Perhaps, JPM's standards at Columbia were a tad too high and students went to MS or GS instead. Overall, a lot of factors are the same among all target schools so it's still a curiosity as to why Columbia only placed 1 junior into JPM, especially when the school usually sends at least 2-3.
This type of placement pattern was also common at the boutique I'm working at. It seems like top schools don't send as many students into the top banks as this forum would like to suggest. There are probably way more students going into banking from Penn State or Stern than Columbia or Dartmouth but also the Ivy League tends to attract more intelligent students.
From my experience, Columbia kids were more pre-dispositioned towards S&T than Ibanking
Also, you need to control for factors of size and career interests. A lot of students from Columbia and Dartmouth would rather spend summers working for Oxfam Hunger, interning for Anderson Cooper, IMF/IFC, or working at the Met than kids from Stern.
Wow, somebody clearly attends Baruch.
clearly. i'm just stating the facts bc i don't want any kids out there getting discouraged.
interesting to notice Villanova not on this list. I currently attend and am discouraged at this. I have been told nova is a non target, but was thinking one would at least make this list??
thepuh, Nova is a semi-target. There are many banks there, BB, boutique, and MM. Don't be discouraged anyway, this is only one firm, JPM, and it's not indicative of all things forever. Besides, as far as I understand it from alumni and current students, it's a bit more inclined toward S&T at the undergrad level, so IBD placement might not be as strong.
nevermind, just realized this was SA
I don't get why that's disturbing. Georgetown even placed one at Blackstone last year.
The Baruch kids are not both URM at GS and if you're in the industry you would know that Baruch places pretty well. They can usually get 2-3 into each BB, URM or not.
For those interested in Europe, this was posted in another forum. A compilation of numbers from the IBD and S&T spring programmes in London at DB, JPM, UBS, MS, CS, GS and Barcap (numbers were excluded where a university had only 1 student represented in a programme to prevent statistical outliers).
Oxford - 76 Cambridge - 69 LSE - 64 Warwick - 58 UCL - 39 Imperial - 27 Durham - 19 Nottingham - 12 SSE - 10 Bristol - 6 HEC - 5 Loughborough - 3 Rotterdam - 2 Amsterdam - 2 Birmingham - 2 Kings College - 2
85% came from the top 6 listed above. I'm actually surprised. Seeing as there is no OCR in the UK, I would have expected a larger representation of non-targets compared to the US but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I got an offer from one of these for London (+1 for the nontarget american school)
Not very selective = JPM
Millsaps?
I have no clue what Millaps is and I am not even bothering to look it up, but recently I have been reminded yet again not to write-off someone just because they go to a 'lesser' school. I see the email of this kid in my future SA class, and having met the person before I think to myself "oh, really? how did he make it that far?". I google his name and realize that he is probably one of the smartest interns...
I was pretty shocked by Millsaps as well. I've heard of it...it's a tiny liberal arts school in Mississippi (of all places), famous for being on the wrong end of the Miracle in Mississippi of 2007:
I was surprised there were 5 kids from Washington & Lee. W&L has a solid rep in the liberal arts circles, but damn. Pretty impressive considering how small that school is.
1 at UT austin? There has to be more than 1 BB offer at UT austin I know like five UT austin five kids who got BB offers
This is just one bank
A lot of non-targets on this list...
The best part about that video was the announcer's name: Jonny Wiener. Seriously?
This is just more evidence that Wharton is slipping up. What's happening ?
Yeah, I'd heard of it too. We actually play(ed) them in baseball. Having some knowledge of the school, it was interesting to see that they had someone interested in the industry, much less someone working in it. Like littlemonkey said, it just goes to show that, as always, you can break in from anywhere as long as you have the drive and gpa. That, or connections
Regarding Columbia: not that many graduating seniors want to work in finance. It's that simple.
Yeah non-targets!!
LOL at how everyone on this site shits on Baruch for being an institution for the poor/dumb... Baruch represent!
They are just haters! Baruch kids pay almost nothing for their tuition and still have plenty of opportunities to get into Banking. If my ass were 200k in debt at some Private school just so I can get into IB, and I see Baruch kids doing it for nothing, I'd be pissed too!
Does anyone know what Columbia grads are looking at if not finance? I'm guessing soros silverlake or other PE/HF?
unemployment
Finance = sell-side + buy-side, so PE/HF fall under that too. I'm doubting your megafund headhunter status more and more...
WSO should really try to compile this data for all BBs each summer; now THAT is added value
How many of you tools even have BB SA/FT offers or jobs in IB?
This thread is pathetic.
JPM has 160 IBD summer analysts?
well what one bank is it ?
These might be offers they gave out because my alma mater is on there and I know the offers are right but don't think all of them signed. Unless they just gave their offers to other kids from the school on the waitlist
160 seems like a lot even if 1/8 is regional. Are we sure this is just IBD and not IBD, S&T, BO etc..
look at mu of ohio running train
columbia getting diced
Most Columbia kids don't plan on doing finance which is not intellectually challenging at all
That's not true at all. There are a ton of students interested in finance at Columbia. I think Columbia sends roughly 10% of its class into the financial services, which is comparable to Princeton based on career surveys.
The interest at Columbia is there though there are plenty of students who don't have jobs. If anything, Columbia tends to send more students to PWM, AM, and smaller firms. Definitely not Silverlake or Soros.
I agree beegees, this is over 160 spots for JPM IBD?
the non targets must have found this website!
i think this list is classic IBD plus credit risk. JPM puts risk within the JPM investment bank.
JPM lumps together IBD and IB risk for the full time training, not for SA. This is the SA IBD list only, it includes NYC and ALL regional offices. And yes, JPM has a big intern class because it also has a big analyst class. For those familiar with the matter, JPM conducts 2 separate trainings for full time, due to the size of the analyst class.
I could be wrong but I believe JPM IB Risk recruits at pretty similar schools to IBD.
More intersting is list of the colleges of kids that got into top 20 pe/hf jobs out of jpm.
JPM had around 150 for AM alone last summer, but this included absolutely every front office role under AM, from people working in the fund of funds group in NYC to private wealth management in Grand Rapid, Michigan and Tulsa. According to Wikipedia, IBD includes:
* Investment banking: advisory; debt and equity underwriting * Market making and <span class="keyword_link"><a href="//www.wallstreetoasis.com/finance-dictionary/trading-overview">trading</a></span>: Fixed income, Equity * Corporate lending * Principal investing * Prime services * ResearchThat list probably doesn't include some of those services (S&T, Research) but 160 SA for IBD isn't that surprising, JPM is a big fucking bank.
this has to be either JPM or DB
Definitely JPM.
OP,
I suggest you read section 3.4 so you don't get fired from your job before you begin. SMH
http://www.jpmorganchase.com/corporate/About-JPMC/document/CodeofConduc…
Surely someone copied the list...
Kinda hilarious. What do we think happened here? His bank probably told him to pull the list, right?
Anyway, hope this guy didn't get into too much trouble...
OP let us know if you got the ax.
this man is are hero do not fire him who ever told him to lose it think of me!!!!!!! BALBASUR!!!!
Another BB (IBD) for U.S. offices. Please do not quote this in case I have to remove it. Ranked numerically first and then alphabetically. Smaller class size (70-85).
DartmouthBoston College Cornell Duke Georgetown Michigan UVA
UPenn (Wharton?)Harvard Notre Dame Princeton Smith Stanford UC Berkeley Washington & Lee William & Mary Wisconsin
YaleAmherst Brown Clemson Illinois Kansas Maryland Middlebury Morehouse Mount Holyoke NYU (Stern?) Rice Santa Clara Spelman TCU UC Irvine UCLA Wheaton Williams
^^^ = Deutche Bank
sorry for resurrecting this post from the grave, but why can't I see the original message? All I see is "..."
Because OP deleted it and replaced it with "..."
BB Investment Banking - Summer Analyst Breakdown by School (Originally Posted: 04/23/2010)
Just recently took a look at the SA list for my BB. Not really a surprise, but Penn/Wharton had twice as many as the next-closest school.
Larger feeder schools Stern, Cornell, Georgetown, UVA, etc also fielded more candidates than the 'elite' ivies--Harvard Yale Princeton, although it has more to do with quantity of students and differences in career goals than anything else.
Few notables: Penn/Wharton 12 Harvard 4 NYU/Stern 5 P/Y 2-3
For the most part, it was the usual suspects but the main takeaway is that regardless of school, you can still kick ass and land a good summer gig. Penn State, ASU, and Cal Poly had one kid each. Lehigh and Notre Dame had 2-3 each. BC had 4.
So on that note, good luck to aspiring college students and all the "fortunate" souls working in IBD this summer, haha. PM if want the full breakdown.
is this Citi / BAML? i heard they took a ton of kids from wharton this year. i don't think GS / MS take as many (4 each?).
the "12" figure is a bit crazy.
how many kids in total are in this class?
smells like barclays
I would hazard to guess that the numbers getting thrown out here- assuming this is the TOTAL analyst class- indicate a BB with fewer employees (maybe Lazard? Just throwing out a name here- I'm not seeing the army one would expect at JPM, BAC, or Citi.). When I was an SA at a large (though not gigantic) BB, we had 120 summer interns in Capital Markets New York. Then again, that was back when the business was booming.
I do find it interesting that Lehigh and ND had as many students as H/Y/P. That certainly wasn't the case back in 2006. It was something along the lines of 25% of the kids being from state schools, 25% from Cornell and Penn, 20% from other Ivies, and the remainder coming from some combination of Northeastern targets, CMU, and Stanford. I don't need to advocate my own biases on the target school system too much, but I will say it's sometimes healthy to get a wide range of perspectives in the Capital Markets world. (I am guessing the same goes for IBD.) Getting students from different geographical parts of the country with different educations (IE: Jesuit university vs. secular private school) is a good way to accomplish some of that.
If it was BAML, you'd see like 10 IU kids. This looks like Barclays with the ND kids.
what about haas?
Def. not Barclays with that many Lehigh's, and with all those Wharton kids I'd venture to guess this is a Phil or Pitt based bank
PNC? Any MM firms based out of Penn?
PNC doesn't have ibd SA positions. So its not them...
Definitely Citi....only one person got into banking from Cal Poly and he is going to Citi.
LOL
(there you go, your funny behavior was rewarded)
It's not Citi.
Barcap gave 21 SA investment banking offers to Penn.
what.....no columbia kids?
this can't be in NY
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I would venture for CS or Citi
Did anyone already get Citi resume books? Did they send out an email or something..?
Cannot be CS because they didn't recruit @ UVA until this year (so 1st class will be SAs for next year), and only for SA.
Doubt its Barcap, UVA doesn't have as many alumni there as in other BBs, so UVA is not a primary feeder for them.
what about johns hopkins?
No. The takeaway is that 1/50,000 students at Penn State or ASU land a summer gig at this bank.
When I was a summer intern four years ago, that ASU spot would have gone to a kid from a Northeastern target school. And I would suspect that if the trend continues- and managers get more confident in their selection process, more spots will be allocated towards non-target schools.
I'm sure 50k students at Penn State applied for summer SA gigs at BBs. You're not looking at this accurately.
this is citi /endthread
^^^ Confirmed. I know the ASU guy going to Citi.
We (ASU) don't have anyone doing SA IBD at citi this summer.....unless he/she has been sneak attacking wall street unbenknownst to anyone in the IBD-seeking community at ASU. We have a couple guys going to Citi for FT S+T, but none on the banking side (or even SA for that matter) at Citi.
My guess is CS or UBS.....
This is definitely Citi. I also know someone from UCSB who will be summering for them
bump... are we talking NY?
Talking all offices combined. And I know of one other person from UCSB who got a BB summer offer. Other than that, just know of one going FT with a BB.
BarCap doesn't recruit at UVA? But I do know of at least three UVA kids starting at BarCap in the fall.
Shout out to BC. Undergrad business school is top notch.
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lol at ASU
ASU is a joke.
I am looking forward to the day that we can also get the smartest kids from BMCC and Hudson Community College into trading; they might just give some of the Wharton grads a run for their money.
They're just pissed b/c ASU has the hottest girls in the country (there really is no argument), and the hottest girls at their school are in the Harry Potter club.
agreed, check out Tempe12 that consists of asu girls. they arent even the best looking either.
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