1/19/12

Which one do you use? From what I've seen, Blackberries are a bankers phone. I want to see if that has changed.

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1/19/12

Blackberries are terrible and the only reason anybody uses them is because they are forced to. I have to use one to get my work email. The firm started supporting iPhones on a limited basis and some people are able to check work email on personal iPhones / iPads (so much better this way).

For a personal phone I can't imagine getting a Bberry. RIMM is a disaster.

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1/19/12
gamenumbers:

Blackberries are terrible and the only reason anybody uses them is because they are forced to. I have to use one to get my work email. The firm started supporting iPhones on a limited basis and some people are able to check work email on personal iPhones / iPads (so much better this way).

For a personal phone I can't imagine getting a Bberry. RIMM is a disaster.

That... pretty much sums it up. +1

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1/19/12

Omg Blackberries are bankers phones.. have to go buy that old piece of shit from 2005.

Android FTW

1/19/12

BlackBerries used to be on top... 7 years ago. I got myself one in 2008 and while I really love the form factor, the thing is slow as crap and nothing is supported on it. Hell, I can't even get my damn Google Calendars to sync properly, how am I supposed to get anything done? Needless to say, I got an iPhone 4 the moment it came out.

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1/19/12

BB sucks, go iPhone. I have a 9700 and I hate it. Internet sucks, calls are decent, noting else to really speak of.

Reality hits you hard, bro...

1/19/12

Oh how the times have changed.

1/19/12

At my shop only the MDs are still holding on to the blackberry's,... I have a new Android with hard keyboard and it's the tits

1/19/12

Iphone all day just tossed my BB 9700 a few weeks ago. Internet browser is weak there is not much you can do with the BB that you can't do better with the iphone other than BBM (with the 20 people on the planet who still have a BB)

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1/19/12

My firm gives iPhones, Androids or Blackberries to our guys, you get to pick which one you want.

iPhone is the overwhelming choice followed closely by the Galaxy S or something.

I have a personal Android and a work BB simply because I only use the work phone for texting, emailing, calling and viewing decks.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

1/19/12
happypantsmcgee:

iPhone is the overwhelming choice followed closely by the Galaxy S or something.

Well put

1/19/12

iPhone, but some firms don't support it, so you could get stuck with a BB!

1/19/12

I've used all three devices: bb, iphone, and android.

Honestly, I like the BB the most. I know iphones are the shit, but I really can't stand touch screen keyboards. The only problem I have with BB's are that they're extremely slow and have not much use for them other than email/txting/calling (apps suck). However, I had a chance to try out the Bold 9900 series and boy are they a HUGE improvement from the previous models. It's A LOT faster (both browsing and regular use) and also has touch screen.

But on the other hand, I like how simple the iphone is and the fact that it is a 2-in-1 device for someone like me that likes to listen to a lot of music. The apps are also a lot better than BB's, but I don't use many apps anyways.

It definitely comes down to personal preference. Can't really see a lot of bankers using the iphone as their work phone because the email on it is far worse than BB's email (only on the basis of 15 minute fetching vs. instantaneous fetching). It seems like whether I switch to an android or the iphone, I always end up coming back to the blackberry because of the keyboard. Try typing when you're drunk. Even with autocorrect, it's extremely difficult. Maybe I'll try out the android devices with a hard keyboard like adapt or die said.

1/19/12

I want my phone purely for making calls and productive tasks - and for such purpose I believe the 9900 is unmatched . For everything else I use my Ipad.

In terms of getting shit done - sending emails, messaging, viewing and sending attachments, checking/editing calendar, writing notes and doing quick browser searches; I can smoke my Iphone/Android friends every time, from both a speed and efficiency perspective. I'm a longtime BB user and I told myself that the day I wanted more from my phone I'd look at an Android phone, but since RIM threw the touchscreen on and new OS in the Bold, I haven't been able to justify a switch.

1/19/12

I've been in the IT/IS field for a long time and have owned just about every device you can name. The setup I have now is the best:

1 - iPad with a Google Voice account. I can initiate all my calls from the iPad and also do e-mail and texting on the larger keyboard

2 - Pre-paid iPhone. You can find tutorials online on how to do this. My iPhone now runs me less than $40/month including data :). Since I use Google Voice, my phone could actually be some little cheap thing, it doesnt have to be an iPhone. I just happened to have one for all the cool apps.

If there is an iPad version that makes calls, I'm all over that. I could then use a single device for everything under the sun.

BTW if you guys aren't familiar with Google Voice, you MUST get an account. Call screening, txt by email, call blocking, custom voicemail prompts, just a great piece of software.

1/19/12
GentlemanJack:

I've been in the IT/IS field for a long time and have owned just about every device you can name. The setup I have now is the best:

1 - iPad with a Google Voice account. I can initiate all my calls from the iPad and also do e-mail and texting on the larger keyboard

2 - Pre-paid iPhone. You can find tutorials online on how to do this. My iPhone now runs me less than $40/month including data :). Since I use Google Voice, my phone could actually be some little cheap thing, it doesnt have to be an iPhone. I just happened to have one for all the cool apps.

If there is an iPad version that makes calls, I'm all over that. I could then use a single device for everything under the sun.

BTW if you guys aren't familiar with Google Voice, you MUST get an account. Call screening, txt by email, call blocking, custom voicemail prompts, just a great piece of software.

Lol, I use the Iphone with pre-paid account. It's in England though, and I pay 15 quid a month, and get 3000 texts, 300 minutes and all-i-can-eat data. It's a very good deal!

Perhaps I should have stated my preference when I started the thread. I prefer the BB for work, but the Iphone for my personal stuff.

It seemed to me that the Blackberry was the nr 1 choice for companies, and for ''professional use''. I suppose that's changing...

1/20/12

i used a BB for like 5 years. i have an iphone 4s now and a BB 9700 for work. BBs suck ass and its sad that i never knew how great the iphone was this whole time

droids are also "laggy" for some reason and def not as smooth as the iphone

1/20/12

I prefer android. I have never understood why people like the blackberry and I don't think I ever will.

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2/18/12

Work- BB

Play- iPhone

2/18/12

If you have the choice, there's no reason to not get the iPhone as opposed to the Blackberry. Sleek and strong performance vs clunky and a shitty OS.

I spoke with a couple VPs at a BB, and they all said that they only have the Blackberry from work for work -- the iPhone is what they use for personal stuff.

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4/7/12

Still use my blackberry.

4/11/12

Android

iPhones are for high school kids. Blackberry is the product of an outdated and dying company that only exists because of old people/companies unable to adapt.

4/11/12

Identifying a Blackberry as a "banker phone" is akin to calling the pitchbook commenting process a "banker way of doing things." Both are rooted in banker tradition. Neither are things you should be proud of.

iPhone or Android. I have the Galaxy Nexus and love it to death.

4/19/12

i use iPhone and seriously speaking, it has nothing to do with what you do and what the mobile you carry. but iphone is a lot better option than BB, it is simpy an addiction and owes a great to your personality

4/19/12

IPHONE bb sucks don't get one you will regret it

4/20/12

I had an iPhone for 2 years and got rid of it for a blackberry bold. Mostly to unlock some liquidity in the phone. Made money on the deal also so I'm happy.

BB pros: excellent call quality and loud speaker, LED notification, texting
BB cons: shitty apps, battery life

iPhone pros: apps, apps, apps, but over time (in my case) all apps got boring and I stopped using them. All the sudden the iPhone became just a regular phone.
iPhone cons: I hated texting on this thing. Couldn't text while driving, thumbs would always hit the wrong letters. Also the damn thing is a square and my ear always hurt after talking too long on it.

4/20/12
cyoungmark:

I had an iPhone for 2 years and got rid of it for a blackberry bold. Mostly to unlock some liquidity in the phone. Made money on the deal also so I'm happy.

BB pros: excellent call quality and loud speaker, LED notification, texting
BB cons: shitty apps, battery life

iPhone pros: apps, apps, apps, but over time (in my case) all apps got boring and I stopped using them. All the sudden the iPhone became just a regular phone.
iPhone cons: I hated texting on this thing. Couldn't text while driving, thumbs would always hit the wrong letters. Also the damn thing is a square and my ear always hurt after talking too long on it.

Well, I'm glad that you are back to texting and driving with your BB. GODSPEED!

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4/20/12

^^ LOL

O and for all the say RIMM is a dying company, just wait.

4/20/12
cyoungmark:

^^ LOL

O and for all the say RIMM is a dying company, just wait.

I'm a contrarian myself and I am contemplating getting long RIMM. Hell, maybe if I wait long enough I can just do a hostile takeover of them. What's their mcap like $50?

4/20/12

hahahahaha IKR. I'm long quite a few shares on RIMM at the moment.

4/20/12

iPhone. Mostly comes down to personal preference though. Are you certain you will have access to corporate email on a mobile device during an internship though? I've know of several places that don't allow it for security reasons.

4/20/12

Asatar:

iPhone. Mostly comes down to personal preference though. Are you certain you will have access to corporate email on a mobile device during an internship though? I've know of several places that don't allow it for security reasons.

You download an app that gives you a secure connection to your work email.
Works similar to remote access.

Would recommend against it though. Occasionally, you'll get emails that for whatever reason don't push through. Also, the notification may not be loud enough/continuous enough to wake you up or to hear it at a bar.

4/20/12

IMO, carrying an extra phone fucking sucks.

4/20/12

take the blackberry, keep work and personal life as separate.as possible
you will be conditioned to dread your new distinct ringtone

4/20/12

I'd take the blackberry.. just to keep work and life separate.

4/20/12

Iphone but only if you get your own email. You can sync the email with your phone so you have a separate inbox. Never use your gmail/personal account. You will go insane.

4/20/12

Blackberry.

4/20/12

If you've used a phone with a physical keyboard in the past, you should probably get the BlackBerry. Others can either confirm/deny, but at my bank those in S&T are not provided with BlackBerries.

Personally, I have an iPhone, and it suits me fine.

4/20/12

perhaps i unintentionally hid my question (though thanks shake for answering it).

are analysts in s&t given blackberries? if so, what banks? thanks!

secondly, is it possible (in terms of will compliance allow one to do it) to forward work e-mail to a g-mail account?

4/20/12

definitely not able to forward. At my bank, we can't hook up our BBs to personal accounts, so many people carry two BBs. It sounds pretty gay, but it is necessary to have some sort of access to personal email throughout the day.

4/20/12
dentyne13:

i wanted to know people's opinion on getting an iphone or a blackberry for someone was going to be starting full-time in s&t.

i know that bankers are given blackberries by the employers, but are people in s&t given one also?

i'm leaning towards getting an iphone (more so for personal use), but if my employer gives me a blackberry, i think i would stick with just the blackberry because i wouldn't want to carry around two phones. thoughts? thanks in advance.

my hr contact mentioned nothing about either iphone or blackberry ...

4/20/12

the iphone does everything better than a blackberry for personal and business purposes. it then does 10x that with multitude of apps available. also, if you are worried about running 3rd-party programs in the background (like Pandora or last.fm), you can always jailbreak your iphone and install Backgrounder.

only large companies with a lot of internal email to manage benefit from having a company-wide blackberry system.

4/20/12

Blackberry.

Sent via galaxy s3 that I want to throw out a window.

Competition is a sin.

-John D. Rockefeller

4/20/12

Hooked on LEAPS:
Blackberry.

Sent via galaxy s3 that I want to throw out a window.


Your phone getting laggy like all androids?
4/20/12

BTbanker:
Hooked on LEAPS:
Blackberry.

Sent via galaxy s3 that I want to throw out a window.


Your phone getting laggy like all androids?

Yep. But more importantly not having a keyboard for business sucks. I have big and clumbsy thumbs.

Competition is a sin.

-John D. Rockefeller

4/20/12

iPhone

4/20/12

Recently came back from a conference full of PMs...they were all using BBs. Right now I have a iPhone5 for work and Nexus 4 for personal use and I think the combo is great. Both of them allow me to easily access bloomberg, my calendar, and emails. I asked my PM if he thought I should get a BB and his response was that the firm was phasing them out...

The only reason I would choose a crackberry over an iphone or android device is b/c of the build quality and physical keyboard.

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4/20/12

My bank initially had the option of BB or iPhone, but they saw 90% opting for iPhones so just decided to make the switch completely.

4/20/12

Do work-only iPhones use standard apple Mail for email?

4/20/12

orangebull:
Do work-only iPhones use standard apple Mail for email?

Appe iPhones can sync with your company outlook exchange and calendar. I still prefer Backberry.
4/20/12

What do you think about the new BB? I'm contemplating making the switch from the iPhone.

"If it were easy, everyone would do it"

4/20/12

JPMortgage:
What do you think about the new BB? I'm contemplating making the switch from the iPhone.

The new blackberry seems to be doing well in Canada. I believe it would serve you well as a phone for work and business.

4/20/12

I keep BB for work and iPhone for personal use. If I can only use one phone, it has to be iPhone but then I need to carry a portable charger all the time. It just looks lame.

So much for information overload: BB chats, whatsapp, iMessages, and whatever from the wife!

Invest first, investigate later.

4/20/12

I'm interested in knowing if personal phones are suggested on top of company phones.

4/20/12
Dibbs:

I'm interested in knowing if personal phones are suggested on top of company phones.

And the answer to your question is yes. How else are you gonna make private calls? You sure can't use the company phone to do it.

4/20/12

Definitely carry a personal phone...some of the married guys at the firm carry a third prepaid one... ;)

4/20/12

BURNER PHONES!! lol

4/20/12

So yeah, whatup. New BB Bold or iPhone 5 or the new Samsung Galaxy ?

4/20/12

blackberry has a feature that allows you to segment your personal email and files from your employer stuff, so you can have one phone, but this only helps with data, and not your personal calls.

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/RIM-Blackberry-B...

4/20/12

so everyone on wso (with a good job) has two phones? personal and work?

4/20/12

I don't know why firms are switching to iPhones from BBs...it's way easier to type on a BB and all you need a work phone for is emails.

4/20/12
Accidental_Banker:

I don't know why firms are switching to iPhones from BBs...it's way easier to type on a BB and all you need a work phone for is emails.

don't you need to be able to call the office / receive calls from the office on your work phone?

4/20/12
swagon:
Accidental_Banker:

I don't know why firms are switching to iPhones from BBs...it's way easier to type on a BB and all you need a work phone for is emails.

don't you need to be able to call the office / receive calls from the office on your work phone?

Yes, and BBs are just as capable as iPhones at making and receiving phone calls. Plus the email-call ratio will be like 10+:1.

4/20/12

It's not really any different from having two phones as an entrepreneur. I have a personal berry, a BB I use for my own business that I can write off as a work expense and I suppose another blackberry from my SA gig this summer. Cant beat the convenience of the Bold/Torch... especially now that I can sync it with my Playbook.

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4/20/12

What firm are you at?

4/20/12

Blackberries are the biggest pieces of shit, no matter what anybody tells you... You can do so much more on an iPhone... except BBM currently, but since RIMM is acknowledging that their phones suck and the only good thing about it is BBM, BBM is going to be available on other phones as well.

PS I have a blackberry and it sucks. So I'm not a huge blind apple supporter

4/20/12

Neither. Droid. It has the best browser on any smart phone. I had a blackberry before my droid, it was great for e-mail, but the internet was lacking. And having an iphone from what I can tell is like using a gameboy as a cell phone.

4/20/12

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4/20/12
fuckyoubitch:

fuck i dunno man charizard or blastoise..

blastoise

4/20/12
lxwarr30:
fuckyoubitch:

fuck i dunno man charizard or blastoise..

blastoise

screw both of you jigglypuff FTW

4/20/12

In many cases, due to security reasons, you will bet your phone from your employer.

If you are looking for a personal phone, and the above are your only options, get the iphone. Blackberry is really an enterprise device.

Like lxwarr said, look into android devices; they are technically superior to the Iphone at the moment. Regardless, it might be worth holding off until June to see what the iphone 5 looks like before you make a 2 year commitment.

4/20/12

I'm in a situation where I'm allowed to do either BB or Iphone, has to be one of those. It will be mixed use work & personal

4/20/12

If you have friends get a blackberry, if you dont, and need to spend a lot of time alone playing with your phone get an Iphone.

4/20/12

What do you use your phone for? Emailing/messaging blackberry is the best, nothing beats a physical keyboard and their security. The blackberry browser does however suck, it has gotten better recently but is still light years behind the iphone/droid. Iphone also has the apps, any game, time waster etc you can want will be available. BB, not so much.

I personally have a blackberry now, though I love the messaging (bbm) and physical keyboard I will be making the shift to android in the near future

4/20/12
Bobb:

What do you use your phone for? Emailing/messaging blackberry is the best, nothing beats a physical keyboard and their security. The blackberry browser does however suck, it has gotten better recently but is still light years behind the iphone/droid. Iphone also has the apps, any game, time waster etc you can want will be available. BB, not so much.

I personally have a blackberry now, though I love the messaging (bbm) and physical keyboard I will be making the shift to android in the near future

bbm is going to be available on iphone and android platforms in near future

4/20/12
ModusOperandi:
Bobb:

What do you use your phone for? Emailing/messaging blackberry is the best, nothing beats a physical keyboard and their security. The blackberry browser does however suck, it has gotten better recently but is still light years behind the iphone/droid. Iphone also has the apps, any game, time waster etc you can want will be available. BB, not so much.

I personally have a blackberry now, though I love the messaging (bbm) and physical keyboard I will be making the shift to android in the near future

bbm is going to be available on iphone and android platforms in near future

That is the rumor. Android this year and iOS sometime after. Never know if thats true, the cost associated with it or even how much they will strip down bbm. I still think a physical keyboard beats all for any type of messaging

4/20/12
Bobb:
ModusOperandi:
Bobb:

What do you use your phone for? Emailing/messaging blackberry is the best, nothing beats a physical keyboard and their security. The blackberry browser does however suck, it has gotten better recently but is still light years behind the iphone/droid. Iphone also has the apps, any game, time waster etc you can want will be available. BB, not so much.

I personally have a blackberry now, though I love the messaging (bbm) and physical keyboard I will be making the shift to android in the near future

bbm is going to be available on iphone and android platforms in near future

That is the rumor. Android this year and iOS sometime after. Never know if thats true, the cost associated with it or even how much they will strip down bbm. I still think a physical keyboard beats all for any type of messaging

I definitely agree that a physical keyboard is better. Half the time, I don't even know what my iPhone friends are trying to text me.. and that's when theyre sober.

4/20/12

This will really be both my work and personal phone. I am leaning Iphone, as I currently have an older BB Curve which I am getting rid of shortly.

Biggest benefits I see going Iphone:
- So much more flexibility
- Speed / functionality of browser
- Easy to look up addresses if going between meetings at different locations
- Better news alerts / updates on any stocks that I follow
- Better calendar

My biggest fears going Iphone:
- No BBM (I can live with this)
- Typing seems ok, but maybe not perfect
- On my Ipod touch, the email system seems pretty cumbersome
- Lots of other folks use BB in the office - so am I the odd man out?

I'm not too worried about the games - but I like the idea of having access to variety of Apps for productivity.

Plus, aren't there apps out there which would handle email on an Iphone the same way BB handles email? - like one touch / easy reply buttons, etc.

4/20/12

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4/20/12

Pick whichever phone phone you want. Its yours. I don't think people sit around compare phones at work. If they do they should be working harder.

People should not need their handheld with minor decisions. You already said you can get either the iPhone or the BlackBerry. Pick what you want.

I have a Torch. It is slow compared to the Storm I had before. I haven't used an iPhone but I imagine it is slow compared to that as well. Rimm seems to be behind on processor speed. I only use my phone for e-mail, text, and a few random apps. For those tasks it is sufficient, although I would like it to be faster.

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