Button Down Collars when not wearing ties?
I've always grown up thinking button down colors on otherwise conservative white/blue shirts was totally fine, if a bit traditional. Now I'm seeing that many swear by no button down collar as it's too casual. I can see that when wearing a tie, but jeez it looks way worse to have a collar with no button to anchor them when not wearing a tie (even with collar stays)
Is this still the norm for you all? Are button down collars, specifically when NOT wearing a tie, acceptable in your office these days?