Can we talk about masks now
Where do I even start with this. The rhetoric around wearing masks has been an absolute fucking marvel to witness. Let’s get one thing straight, masks do literally nothing to prevent the spread of Covid-19. Fauci said this himself in an interview. They do not work, and if even if they somehow helped, it would not be to nearly the degree that idiots claim they are. Its ridiculous seeing people with shitty pieces of cloth and old t-shirts on their faces actually believing it’s eradicating their chances of spreading and contracting Covid. It’s obvious that masks are being used to make people feel safer and more secure, which would be fine on it’s own. EXCEPT for the fact that people have gone absolutely insane about this. I can’t even count the amount of comments I’ve seen saying “This entire pandemic would’ve been over in two weeks if everyone had just worn their masks” and “By not wearing your mask you’re a selfish idiot who is quite literally killing thousands of innocent people” Reddit is particularly guilty of this. People putting on their mask to walk to their table and then take it off immediately after sitting down. People requiring masks in certain places but you don’t have to wear it if you’re eating because the virus disappears once you start eating. It’s the most unscientific thing I’ve ever seen and the psychology of it should be studied and analyzed to show how retarded the average person is.
We should get special masks for people like you. Not to prevent the spread of COVID, but to prevent the spread of sheer stupidity.
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These sheep spend their lives in a media bubble and when they are challenged on their core religious beliefs (e.g. those surrounding covid) their ability to defend their religious beliefs has been compromised (because it's a skill they never develop) so they retreat to their lizard brain and lash out. That's the problem when you live in a leftist bubble and why they consider censorship to be easier than winning debates.
You know, the world isn't black and white. Restaurants are doing the best they can. If that means applying uneven scrutiny to mask-wearing in such a way that allows them to continue to do business, then great. Nobody is under the illusion that taking your mask off while eating but putting it back on while on the way to the bathroom makes a lot of sense.
Are masks 100% effective? No. Would the pandemic have been over if people had worn masks in the beginning? No.
Are they an non-zero percentage effective mitigation technique amongst a number of others? Yes. And it's not any amount of inconvenient.
Just wear your fucking mask and stop turning this into some sort of political soap box.
EDIT: I know well enough this isn't a fruitful path of discussion, I'm not sure why I got baited into responding to this post. Will not be posting anymore.
Just wear your fucking mask even though there is no evidence that your dirty cloth mask makes any material difference while walking down the street in the open air. SCIENCE! OBEY!
Look, if you want me to go against the recommendations of the CDC, you're going to have to provide peer-reviewed research suggesting that masks aren't nominally effective. "Lack of evidence" doesn't cut it.
Okay Donald
Imagine if all those dumb, stupid, Trump-voting redneck states were as successful as New York, California, and New Jersey, the capitals of mask-wearing and lockdowns where the governor is being impeached in one state and recalled in another as unemployment remains at recession levels. NJ is the national leader in deaths per capita. If only we dumb people would follow the lead of the smart people like you.
Why are you turning this into a civil war?
Hey, don’t forget Pennsylvania! Where governor Wolf and Dr. Levine (currently Biden’s HHS assistant secretary nominee) also pulled the ol’ nursing-home-taking-COVID-patients-trick.
What really concerns me are the people who are talking about "the new normal", "having restrictions after vaccines", etc. Essentially, refusing to give up control even after there is literally no reason to be doing so (which arguably is even in our past). I was talking with someone today who bluntly told me "I will follow whatever rules the officials put in place. They know best how to handle this virus."
Up until this point I've only considered comp and career potential when evaluating jobs. Now I'm considering freedom.
Biden was asked yesterday when he thinks we can return to normal as a society. "I hope in a year or so." This after the Biden administration announces enough vaccine by the end of May to vaccinate the entire population of the United States. These people are obsessed with power. They will never willingly relinquish it. We will just have to take it back. Unfortunately, I live in an area with a bunch of mindless sheep who will, like you said, listen to whatever the officials say.
Yea, that was a baffling comment to say the least
Why are people willing to be controlled so much without any pushback? I've thought about it for a long time, but can't come to any meaningful answer
I don't particularly like Fauci, but masks work and make sense. Look at China/Japan who already have mask wearing as part of their culture and have massively avoided spread of the virus. My friends in Tokyo wear masks when around others but are otherwise living large.
Turning this into an "us vs them" argument is stupid. We can agree masks and social distancing should be practiced, schools should be open, and restrictions on indoor capacity should remain until June/July when we likely reach herd immunity. As a backlash to the inane conservative anti-mask, covid-denying movement a lot of liberals have turned into masks forever, the vaccine won't end the pandemic, types of nuts. We can agree both extremes are stupid and that the best course of action lies in-between.
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I suppose you don't have any friends in China right now because mine are having a wonderful time. Everything is open and people can mostly live normally. Despite completely bungling the start of the pandemic the CCP eventually took control and dealt with it. Most countries outside of east Asia never got a handle on covid whatsoever.
No, we don't agree on this. Here's what I can agree to--if you want to lock yourself inside and mask up, go for it. We live in a free fucking country last time I checked. The problem is, you don't actually agree that it's a free country. You believe you have a right to use the power of gov't to enforce your hypochondria onto people who would rather make adult decisions about risk for themselves.
So in a pandemic where a disease spreads through droplets coming out of people’s mouths, using something to cover people’s mouths would have no impact on the spread?
Intuition often doesn't work. Neck gaiters 9 months ago were demonstrated in the lab to be counterproductive--they actually accelerated the emission of droplets from breath. What do we see? One out of ever 8 or 9 "masks" we see are neck gaiters. No policymaker or rule setter that I've seen has issued rules about neck gaiters. They are perfectly legitimate forms of masking in any establishment as the rules stand. We know that dirty masks can actually contribute to illness and be counterproductive. We know that cloth masks, while providing some benefit in the lab, also provide a false sense of security because the CORE reason for covid spread is extended contact (10-15 mins) with symptomatic spreaders, which is why households are the prime location for covid spread. This false sense of security can bring people into more extended contact than they would otherwise be willing to endure without a mask. And if the mask isn't a clean, medical-grade mask, they may be setting themselves up for a nasty surprise.
Y'all don't get it. You are so radically obsessed with the concept that masking is the silver bullet that you won't even consider how A can lead to B.
This got MS but not ONE rebuttal lmao
This got MS but not ONE rebuttal lmao
Dude I think the nations that deal with this shit all the time (East Asia) know what they are doing. They encourage the hell out of mask wearing and guess what, it kind of works. Perfect, no, but it certainly helps.
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