I cold-emailed 2 traders at a date N. They answered me between 3 and 4 days after. One suggested to send my resume and the other to have a chat through phone last week. I replied but I haven't got news from them since 11 days.
What should I do ? I really want an internship in their company, to know more about the way how they succeeded in this field but don't want to seem awkward.
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Yeah I find this situation a little awkward.
I've had people ask me drop them an email and given me their card, no response after weeks.
They could have reviewed your resume and not seen a fit for you at that specific company at that time. Worst case scenario per se, but probably the most realistic.
This might seem a bit out there, but if I don't here a response for a prolonged period of time I will send another email "apologizing" for any offense I may have caused. Usually get a response back quickley saying I didn't do anything they were just busy.
I know, it's out there but it seems to work.
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Yeah, follow up but I'm not sure if "apologizing" is a good idea. I'm curious to know how you go about writing that email @"Street Smart" and what kind of responses have you received?
Tip for next time. Always attach your resume to the cold email, and the email should serve as a brief body of your cover letter.
It is a very specific situation in which the "apology" email is used.
it generally says something like:
"Mr.___,
I wanted to apologize if I may have said something to offend or took actions that were out of line. This was not the intention.
Thank you again for the insight and guidance you have offered me."
Something to that effect, changed of course depending on the situation. I usually use it when I think I might have made a comment that was interperted incorrectly and haven't heard from the person in a while.
The response is usually next few days and the person is apologizing to me for not responding and saying I didn't do anything to offend.
I would never send an apology email, ever. If the person forgot about your first email or was considering still contacting you and then received an apology email, they will certainly ignore any other emails from you. 11 days can fly by for someone who is very busy, just send a reminder - if they follow up pursue, if not move on to the next one - I know it is hard but you shouldn't be waiting around for someone to email you back. Make something happen, with that person or another.
An appology is not necessary unless you said something offensive or ignorant, in which case they're not gonna help you anyway.
"Hey XXXX, just following up on my email from last week. Would you still be willing to chat about Co XYZ if you had a chance? Did you have a chance to review my resume? I am very interested in hearing more about Co XYZ"
dont overthink it.
I'm not sure if I'd ever send out an "apology" email either. Shows a lack of confidence/understanding to read the cues etc. as well. In this case, just follow up saying, "I was just wondering if you had a chance to review resume/speak to XYZ."
Hey, you guys can bash it all you want. I'm not here to debate methodology or to say who's right or wrong. I really don't care if you think my idea is "lame".
Bottom line: it works for me. More than just once or twice. If the author doesn't want to do that, he doesn't have to. It was an out of the box suggestion.
Fair point. And if that particular strategy isn't the best, then I can stop using it. I'd rather be on the right track than getting lucky with the wrong one.
I appreciate the insight.
@Street Smart : This template is good for incomprehension/misunderstanding scenarios that you think you screwed up.
@BtBanker : I would not send my resume thru. You are very likely to have much less responses as it sounds more formal than informal. Just my opinion though.
I think I'll refresh them, they are huge busy players from top firm.
I'll try to see if I can find some old threads, but people have had success attaching resumes to their first emails. The reasoning being that whoever you are emailing knows what you want, and it is just better to be straight forward with your intentions rather than dance around the fact that you want an internship.
So much bad advice on here. Don't apologize and never attach your email on your first cold email.
Follow up with him, ask him if he's had a chance to look at your resume..what does he think? does he have time to chat, you'd love to hear any advice or guidance he'd have to offer. That is how you network and build relationships.
Agree
Should have said that only works if you have an incredible resume and are shooting it out to 300+ firms.
Your resume is an advertisement... that's it. They should want to call you and get to know you better - think about it.
I'm gonna follow up with a short email.
Shall I use his first name or use Mr ... ?
Use his name.
First name or last name ?
Thanks for the advice
LOLZ
Do you also text a girl "sorry if I said something that offended you" if she doesn't respond for a while? Be more confident.
Is it more alpha to say "Sorry" or "I apologize?" Or should I say "My apologies," which is obviously the classiest route.
what if a girl texts a guy that? does she come off as a little wussy?
Furthermore, people who get offended about things are idiots. What does it even mean to be offended? Seriously, define it. It's a nice word fr being buttmad that someone's views are different than yours. Why the fuck should you care? And why the fuck would you announce it? Even if you care, I certainly don't care that I made you buttmad.
People should apologize for shit less overall in our modern Western world.
Don't try to make it a gender thing, because its not.
But, to answer your question, in that scenario it is the guy who is beta for letting the girl think she upset him to the point where she needs to ask. Any alpha tells a girl when he doesn't like something, unless he is playing mind games with her.
This thread is an example of why networking actually works. There are a lot of fucking weirdos out there, so it's relatively easy to stand out if you're a normal human being.
I sent a cold email to credit analyst at Scotiabank, she was prompt to reply back to me when asked her about her typical day and responsibilities and how did she get there... this was her reply "The primary responsibilities of a credit analyst are underwriting credit application and conducting financial statement analysis. There is no typical route to become an analyst. I moved up from retail banking. And some of my colleagues are new graduates"
my goal essentially is to obtain a credit analyst position currently I am working in Commercial Lending, what should I reply to her?
Thanks
I got the email address of the CEO of a billion dollars revenue company. How should I approach him as my email is likely to be deleted ?
@"yorku" just send a follow up email thanking her for giving you all the information and ask her if you should be willing to meet you for a quick coffee. Prepare good questions for the meeting and end it by asking her to refer you to other people on her team.
Also, in future never ask anyone to give you information on their typical day and their career path over email - those are the questions you should be asking them when you see them in-person.
@"Intern2014" hey thanks, her schedule was very busy so she said she could communicate via email but I will def keep that in mind next time. Sent her a reply: I am interested in similar transition, wondering if you have tips and how I could go about this, and if you could pass me along to anyone who may manages the hiring for new credit analysts. hope this works for me!
@"yorku" no problem. I usually ask for a quick phone chat if they're too busy to meet. Also, I go about saying if they can refer me to other people on the team to get a better feel for the culture/learn more about the firm/prepare myself better for the recruiting season. I have never asked to be referred to someone who manages hiring - its too direct but I don't think it would do any harm.
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