Cornell vs Northwestern for NYC IB/PE?

In terms of opportunities per student body, should I be choosing Cornell(Policy Analysis and Management major in College of Human Ecology) or Northwestern(CAS Econ with Kellogg Finane Certificate)? Cornell is $20K cheaper but there are more students to compete against and the quality of the school can't compare to Northwestern. There are Northwestern students at every elite boutique such as Evercore, Moelis, Centerview, etc, but I think more Cornell students at the BBs.

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Mar 10, 2019 - 5:15pm

Have you checked the placement of the College of "Human Ecology" vs NU Finance programs? Should be an obvious choice. That said, you could change schools in Cornell to econ/engineering which I places well in BBs as the alumni network for one exists at larger firms. All information is anecdotal and heard from friends who go to Cornell.

Mar 10, 2019 - 8:20pm

Human Ecology students have access to the same OCR that every other college at Cornell has, and is a pretty niche major so it might else me stand out. However, I like Northwestern as a school more, so I'm not sure if I should choose the better school(Northwestern) or the school with better recruitment(Cornell).

Mar 10, 2019 - 7:26pm

They are pretty equal in terms of placement. Very good schools with strong programs (though AEM/Dyson at Cornell is better than what you have listed). I would choose more so based on cost and proximity. Naturally Northwestern places better into Chicago shops and Cornell more so to NYC.

For $20k, I don't think it's worth going elsewhere.

Mar 10, 2019 - 8:20pm

Human Ecology students have access to the same OCR that every other college at Cornell has, and is a pretty niche major so it might else me stand out. However, I like Northwestern as a school more, so I'm not sure if I should choose the better school(Northwestern) or the school with better recruitment(Cornell).

Mar 11, 2019 - 12:38pm

Equal access to OCR doesn't mean equal competitiveness in the eyes of recruiters. NW Econ / Finance will obviously look more aligned with a career in finance. Human Ecology sounds totally unrelated so you might stand out in a bad way.

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Mar 11, 2019 - 2:07pm

Fair enough, do you think it's a better chance than majoring in something related?

None of this shit sounds finance relevant to me:
Human Ecology undergrad degree programs

If we dive into the closest possible related major, Policy something, here's the curriculum:
PAM curriculum Looks pretty light on #'s to me, social science statistics is the closest you're getting.

  • Introduction to Policy Analysis

  • Intro to Microecon

  • Intermediate Microecon

  • Population and Public Policy

  • Intro to Stats

Here's a relevant major area at the same school: Applied Economics and Management

  • Business Management

  • Financial Accounting

  • Finance

  • Marketing

  • Strategy

  • Business Law

  • Managerial Accounting

  • Plus the Econ stuff from above.

I don't know, man, I'm sure you can make a good enough story and how to make IB recruiting work with the policy major. You'll just be working much harder to reach the same goal. In IB recruiting you do not want to stand out, you want to fit in. What % of graduates the Applied Econ / Mgmt major above go into finance vs. the % from the Policy major?

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Mar 11, 2019 - 2:23pm

The curriculum is pretty similar to that of a regular liberal arts Economics major or even a Government major. Don't investment banks look for Ivy League liberal arts students as well as business/finance majors? Obviously AEM at Cornell is your best bet, but external transfers are not allowed to then internally transfer to AEM, so I might as well stick with PAM.

Mar 11, 2019 - 2:51pm

That makes a lot of sense. IBs generally take a "best athlete" approach so will start with the finance majors with the best academic profile, then other majors with an excellent academic profile could edge out Tier 2 academic finance majors depending on story / fit / etc.

Standard advice applies to join the finance / business clubs at school, take finance / accounting electives, network extensively, have interesting hobbies, and crush academics. You'll be more than fine.

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Mar 11, 2019 - 6:59pm

I think what the PAM major offers is very interesting, and I know how to connect and highlight its relevancy to the street. Do you think that'll help me stand out more than just being another Econ/AEM/Hotel student?

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Mar 11, 2019 - 4:26pm

School honestly doesn't matter that much at Cornell. There's plenty of interesting management/econ courses within HumEc and you can very easily take as many finance/accounting/business courses that you want in AEM/Hotel/CAS, etc.

This seems like an easy choice. $20K cheaper per year x 4 means you have $80K less in debt. Anecdotally from ~5 years on the street I've seen way more Cornell kids in IB in NYC than Northwestern (though NW has more in Chicago, a much much smaller market). At an EB on your list and we generally have 2-3 Cornell per class, don't have any NW this year

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Mar 11, 2019 - 8:16pm

Sounds like you're drinking the Cornell Kool-Aid hard man. At Cornell the AEM/Dyson kids will 100% get looked at before you do. At the superday I went to I saw exclusively AEM/Dyson kids of those from Cornell (my school is a "peer" school to Cornell). Don't think I've met one doing regular econ or whatever that major you're talking about is when recruiting

If you want NYC, Cornell. If you want IB but also want a college experience, NU. NU campus is awesome and you're just outside of Chicago + you'll get all the Chicago superdays with the UChi/UMich kids

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Mar 12, 2019 - 1:00am

If you can make it work without hurting, then I'd say yes. You're only gonna be in undergrad once and you can easily get into an ivy for a postgraduate degree (assuming you do well at NU) if you want that ivy prestige for whatever reason.

I've heard tons and tons and tons of stories about how depressing it is in Ithaca so I'd personally take NU Econ over Cornell non-AEM any day

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