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Feb 12, 2012 - 10:44pm

For aero/defense: Boeing, LMT, Northrop, Raytheon have them. Not sure of the rankings between them.

"Who am I? I'm the guy that does his job. You must be the other guy."
 
Feb 12, 2012 - 10:44pm

Several programs with links follow

United Technologies (Ticker: UTX): Financial Leadership Program (http://careers.utc.com/under_ft_flp.asp)

Johnson and Johnson (JNJ): Financial Leadership Development Program (http://careers.jnj.com/sites/default/files/ldp/pdf/FLDP_v2.pdf)

General Electric (GE): Financial Management Program (http://www.ge.com/careers/students/fmp/index.html)

Diageo (DEO): http://www.diageo-careers.com/Pages/FinanceGraduateProgramme–NorthAmerica.aspx

"When I was young I thought that money was the most important thing in life; now that I am old I know that it is." - Oscar Wilde "Seriously, psychology is for those with two x chromosomes." - RagnarDanneskjold
 
Feb 12, 2012 - 11:30pm

Sounds good, I thought I had a similar spreadsheet somewhere, I was looking for it but couldnt find it.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Feb 12, 2012 - 11:38pm

And I found the spreadsheet, so Ill be adding that in plus the list another guy posted in there!

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Feb 13, 2012 - 11:24am

Intel, Microsoft and Ford have rotational programs for undergrads (I'll find the links after work)

INTC: http://www.intel.com/jobs/usa/students/programs/finance.htm

MSFT: http://careers.microsoft.com/careers/en/us/grad-finance-jobs.aspx#urgradfinancejobs-1

Intel also has a program for MBA grads from top programs
http://www.intel.com/jobs/usa/students/programs/mba.htm

 
Feb 14, 2012 - 1:17am

A few more added. Going to be doing MBA programs, too, as I see them

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Feb 14, 2012 - 2:32am

Fixed

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Feb 14, 2012 - 6:48pm

BigBucks: I will add favorites as I hear first hand about companies, for sure

getatme: I'll fix it, thanks!

I've added every company everyone has posted, and I'm currently almost through dublin's spreadsheet. Let me know if you catch mistakes, I will probably be making a bunch!

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Feb 14, 2012 - 8:14pm

Somebody ought to sticky this! Great idea D M.

"When I was young I thought that money was the most important thing in life; now that I am old I know that it is." - Oscar Wilde "Seriously, psychology is for those with two x chromosomes." - RagnarDanneskjold
 
Feb 14, 2012 - 8:36pm

Generally topics don't get stickied, I can probably get it added to the SPOTLIGHT thread though.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Feb 16, 2012 - 3:12am

A few more posted. Now I'm at the point where I'm just going through a list of F500 career sites, so additions will be slower. If you have any additions, let me know, I'll add things faster that way.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Feb 20, 2012 - 11:20pm

Great resource, thanks for doing this. It should be huge a help to tons of young monkeys

Impossible is nothing
 
Feb 28, 2012 - 9:13pm

It's been a while since I've updated this. I noticed a few broken links. I plan on going through it again in the next couple of weeks and fixing those/adding some new companies. If you've got any more additions, let me know!

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Mar 7, 2012 - 3:05pm

Because I'm extremely busy and haven't gotten around to updating this, hopefully I will soon. If you have info on any rotation programs and put the info here, I'll add them to the list (pretty easy, Google that shit or look through the careers section of their site).

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Mar 7, 2012 - 3:25pm

haven't read the responses...

clicked a few of the links...

this is some pretty good work, because I have heard about them but only knew a few companies that do the rotational thing...

long story short, this page will be bookmarked and thanks for posting it...

Get it!
 
Mar 7, 2012 - 9:31pm

No problem, if you stumble across any more, let me know and I'll throw em up!

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Mar 28, 2012 - 3:14am

Currently in the process of updating some things/fixing some links. Will be working on it for the next hour or so and will finish up tomorrow (hopefully add some new companies as well)

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Mar 29, 2012 - 10:41am

Putting GE FMP in the diversified financials category doesn't really capture the scope of the program. I think you're better off putting it in favorites and breaking out the industries (Healthcare, Capital, Energy, Aviation etc) separately.

 
Mar 29, 2012 - 10:43am

theBEEGEES:
Putting GE FMP in the diversified financials category doesn't really capture the scope of the program. I think you're better off putting it in favorites and breaking out the industries (Healthcare, Capital, Energy, Aviation etc) separately.

Is it a favorite? Do we know what the qualifications for to get a firm into favorites?
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 
Mar 29, 2012 - 11:35am

theBEEGEES:
It probably should be a favorite. It's definitely one of the best in terms of exits to B-School and other F500 roles.

So you want a ranking then. Thats not really what favorite here is driving at.
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 
Mar 29, 2012 - 12:14pm

Based on the criteria in the OP, I'll vouch for FMP as being a "favorite".

"*This first section is reserved for great companies that put a strong emphasis on employee development. Feel free to let me know (in private message, if you like) if you know first-hand about any of these programs."

 
Mar 29, 2012 - 1:49pm

We have heard good things about GE's FMP program on this site and it is probably the most recognizable program. I've talked to a former FMPer, and he confirmed that it's a great program, so I'll throw it up there.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Mar 30, 2012 - 2:42am

Added KeyBank, Baxter, and a couple of others. Thanks for the heads-up rochon

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Jun 19, 2012 - 1:41pm

Does anyone know specifics about these programs for MBA's? It's unclear to me what happens at the end of 2 years in these programs and exactly what kind of role you would move into. Do people realistically move up the ladder and get into executive positions or do people tend to get stuck in middle management?

 
Jun 19, 2012 - 1:48pm

kwapture:
Does anyone know specifics about these programs for MBA's? It's unclear to me what happens at the end of 2 years in these programs and exactly what kind of role you would move into. Do people realistically move up the ladder and get into executive positions or do people tend to get stuck in middle management?

depends on where your MBA is from and you don't automatically become an executive.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
Jun 19, 2012 - 2:15pm

bfin:
depends on where your MBA is from and you don't automatically become an executive.

+1

i'd say your chances of moving into an executive role after a...training program...are about 1 in a million. get experience, prove yourself, make friends w/ the right ppl and you'll do well

 
Jun 19, 2012 - 2:27pm

kwapture:
I understand that, thanks. I meant 10-15 years down the road whether or not these programs open doors for you.

Your questions are extremely vague you need to be more specific if you want to get some helpful suggestions. Which college your MBA is from, what you want to do with your career, which program you're talking about etc.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
Jun 19, 2012 - 2:32pm

I apologize, bfin. I went to Georgetown undergrad (economics) and am going to Ross for business school. I worked in AM for 4 years and would like to get into corp development or strategy role, though I know that banking experience is preferred. I have interest both in the power & energy sector and consumer product companies and do not know much about how these rotational programs work. For example, whether or not I would stand a chance of getting recruited into an M&A role in one of these companies (Exxon, Chevron, J&J) and, if not, where I would be placed if I was in a generic strategy or finance role.

 
Jun 19, 2012 - 2:34pm

kwapture:
I apologize, bfin. I went to Georgetown undergrad (economics) and am going to Ross for business school. I worked in AM for 4 years and would like to get into corp development or strategy role, though I know that banking experience is preferred. I have interest both in the power & energy sector and consumer product companies and do not know much about how these rotational programs work. For example, whether or not I would stand a chance of getting recruited into an M&A role in one of these companies (Exxon, Chevron, J&J) and, if not, where I would be placed if I was in a generic strategy or finance role.

PM Monty09. He is the go to guy when it comes to Power and energy.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
Jul 8, 2012 - 9:54pm

Excuse me if this has been gone over, I'm a little ignorant to fldps. I'm an Accounting major at a public Florida university so not at a target school at all. I plan to do an MSA to be CPA eligible.

My ultimate goal is to end up at an upper level position at an F500. My original plan was to do Big 4 audit for a few years until the manager level and then try to jump ship to corporate finance. But I'm worried about getting pigeonholed into only accounting type work.

Would an FLDP be a better idea? And do I have a chance as an accounting major at a non target?

Thanks and sorry for my ignorance,
--Art Vandelay

 
Sep 23, 2012 - 10:31am

Art.Vandelay:
Excuse me if this has been gone over, I'm a little ignorant to FLDPs. I'm an Accounting major at a public Florida university so not at a target school at all. I plan to do an MSA to be CPA eligible.

My ultimate goal is to end up at an upper level position at an F500. My original plan was to do Big 4 audit for a few years until the manager level and then try to jump ship to corporate finance. But I'm worried about getting pigeonholed into only accounting type work.

Would an FLDP be a better idea? And do I have a chance as an accounting major at a non target?

Thanks and sorry for my ignorance,
--Art Vandelay


Accounting major is fine. Non-target is possible as well, though most hires come from target schools for that company. That said, a lot of these programs target specific schools that you may think of as "non-targets". My program specifically recruits at 1 or 2 schools that are non-targets for most programs. That said, the school I went to isn't heavily recruited by my program but is a semi-target for Investment banks. The school you went to isn't nearly as prohibitive in FLDP recruiting in my experience.

As far as easier to move up, I would say it depends on the program and company. It seems like basically every FLDP graduate at my company ends up at least in the Director level (if they stay) at some point in their career because of the network. That said, big4 audit is looked upon very favorably as well and I know people who have moved into my company at Manager levels after doing a stint in big 4. I would say, if you do audit, you may be more pigeon holed to what you can do later. Where with an FLDP program there may be more ability to move around.

 
Sep 23, 2012 - 4:10pm

AllDay_028:
Art.Vandelay:
Excuse me if this has been gone over, I'm a little ignorant to FLDPs. I'm an Accounting major at a public Florida university so not at a target school at all. I plan to do an MSA to be CPA eligible.

My ultimate goal is to end up at an upper level position at an F500. My original plan was to do Big 4 audit for a few years until the manager level and then try to jump ship to corporate finance. But I'm worried about getting pigeonholed into only accounting type work.

Would an FLDP be a better idea? And do I have a chance as an accounting major at a non target?

Thanks and sorry for my ignorance,
--Art Vandelay


Accounting major is fine. Non-target is possible as well, though most hires come from target schools for that company. That said, a lot of these programs target specific schools that you may think of as "non-targets". My program specifically recruits at 1 or 2 schools that are non-targets for most programs. That said, the school I went to isn't heavily recruited by my program but is a semi-target for Investment banks. The school you went to isn't nearly as prohibitive in FLDP recruiting in my experience.

As far as easier to move up, I would say it depends on the program and company. It seems like basically every FLDP graduate at my company ends up at least in the Director level (if they stay) at some point in their career because of the network. That said, big4 audit is looked upon very favorably as well and I know people who have moved into my company at Manager levels after doing a stint in big 4. I would say, if you do audit, you may be more pigeon holed to what you can do later. Where with an FLDP program there may be more ability to move around.

I've applied for a Siemens FLDP internship through my OCR program, waiting to hear back for an interview, but thats the only FLDP program that I have seen that recruits where I am. However, its in Georgia, and that would eliminate me from doing any SLPs for a Big 4 firm.

Ultimately, I'd probably want to do something a little less accounting based, more managerial or development type work, so I'm sure the FLDP is the smarter choice, but Big 4 audit seems to be a good mix of safety and potential.

 
Sep 7, 2012 - 2:43pm

How would my chances at these Leadership Development Programs be affected by taking a year off after undergrad to do voluntary service? I'm a senior at a small private college with a decent gpa (3.5) and am looking for work experience that will eventually lead to a top bschool.

 
Sep 23, 2012 - 10:26am

ksh206:
How would my chances at these Leadership Development Programs be affected by taking a year off after undergrad to do voluntary service? I'm a senior at a small private college with a decent gpa (3.5) and am looking for work experience that will eventually lead to a top bschool.

Hard to know. My program always seems to have people interviewing and some are hired that had jobs between the program and graduating. But, i've never seen anyone do volunteer service during that time. My guess is that if you have a compelling story that shows both that you are really interested in finance, in the industry, and why you did that service, you'll be fine.
 
Oct 18, 2012 - 8:15pm

thank you so much for posting this! i'm going to start clicking through all of them, but do you know off hand if any of these programs take place in new orleans?

 
Oct 18, 2012 - 9:43pm

gaj418:
thank you so much for posting this! i'm going to start clicking through all of them, but do you know off hand if any of these programs take place in new orleans?

I can't say for sure, because I haven't sifted through all of them, but more than likely there is no FLDP opportunities at any large company in New Orleans. New Orleans is only home to 1 F500, Entergy, which doesn't have an FLDP. Other large companies have some presence there but generally FLDPs tend to be centered around HQ or the finance HQ office. So while there may be a rotation in that area, there is unlikely to be an FLDP centered around New Orleans.
 
Dec 17, 2012 - 11:23pm

This is an amazing list and I just signed up so I can say Thank You ... I will definitely be looking into your paid products ... If you guys put this much work into something you offer for free I can only imagine how much more is in the paid products ... (Note: This isn't fake, I'll be graduating with my MBA soon as was looking for a list like this)

 
Dec 30, 2012 - 2:07am

josiah.mcdonald:
This is an amazing list and I just signed up so I can say Thank You ... I will definitely be looking into your paid products ... If you guys put this much work into something you offer for free I can only imagine how much more is in the paid products ... (Note: This isn't fake, I'll be graduating with my MBA soon as was looking for a list like this)

Glad you like it, wish I had the time to put more into it. Honestly those links seem to go dead every year or two, but it only takes a couple of hours to compile. With those names you can probably get to their offered programs fairly quickly.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Jan 30, 2013 - 1:53pm

bump

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Mar 26, 2013 - 2:56pm

bumping this, hopefully get back to adding more soon

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Mar 27, 2013 - 12:39pm

What oil/gas and energy/power rotations are considered to be the best? Sorry if this has been answered, WSO won't let me view the second page.

"There are only two opinions in this world: Mine and the wrong one." -Jeremy Clarkson
 
Mar 27, 2013 - 3:54pm

jon1987:
What oil/gas and energy/power rotations are considered to be the best? Sorry if this has been answered, WSO won't let me view the second page.

I got a summer analyst offer for Chevron's FLDP, and they have pretty much 100% conversion rate to the full time FLDP after graduation. I declined for a SA consulting offer, but feel free to PM me if you want any details about their program.

As far as which is the "best" from energy, I would say Chevron is up there. Not sure if you consider GE an "energy" company, but their FMP is widely considered the best rotational program in the country. Chevron hires ~7 SA's per year and takes ~12 people/year for the full time (so basically the previous year's 7 interns plus 5 new hires). There are a variety of reasons I declined Chevron, but one of the main ones is that their rotation doesn't involve placements in corpdev/corpstrat, which are the two groups people often want to end up in. Their's is heavily weighted towards accounting functions (treasury, FP&A, audit, etc.). Here's a link to read more about it:

Full time: http://careers.chevron.com/disciplines/index_of_disciplines/finance/finance_development.aspx
Summer: http://careers.chevron.com/disciplines/index_of_disciplines/finance/finance_internships.aspx

Also, agree with the previous comments in this thread about recruiting. I come from what would be considered a non-target for banking (but target for many other industries/companies), and Chevron takes 1 student/year for their FLDP from my school. I talked to the guy doing the interviews, and he said they basically have 8-10 schools they visit each year and take 1-2 students from each. They hire almost exclusively from the West Coast (think USC, Berkeley, UofWashington, BYU) and take accounting and/or finance majors.

 
May 4, 2013 - 1:41am

Zzari:

jon1987:

What oil/gas and energy/power rotations are considered to be the best? Sorry if this has been answered, WSO won't let me view the second page.

I got a summer analyst offer for Chevron's FLDP, and they have pretty much 100% conversion rate to the full time FLDP after graduation. I declined for a SA consulting offer, but feel free to PM me if you want any details about their program.

As far as which is the "best" from energy, I would say Chevron is up there. Not sure if you consider GE an "energy" company, but their FMP is widely considered the best rotational program in the country. Chevron hires ~7 SA's per year and takes ~12 people/year for the full time (so basically the previous year's 7 interns plus 5 new hires). There are a variety of reasons I declined Chevron, but one of the main ones is that their rotation doesn't involve placements in corpdev/corpstrat, which are the two groups people often want to end up in. Their's is heavily weighted towards accounting functions (treasury, FP&A, audit, etc.). Here's a link to read more about it:

Full time: http://careers.chevron.com/disciplines/index_of_di...
Summer: http://careers.chevron.com/disciplines/index_of_di...

Also, agree with the previous comments in this thread about recruiting. I come from what would be considered a non-target for banking (but target for many other industries/companies), and Chevron takes 1 student/year for their FLDP from my school. I talked to the guy doing the interviews, and he said they basically have 8-10 schools they visit each year and take 1-2 students from each. They hire almost exclusively from the West Coast (think USC, Berkeley, UofWashington, BYU) and take accounting and/or finance majors.

This doesn't surprise me as I've noticed during my time working with clients (I work at one of the BIG4) that most FDLP programs do not place into Corporate Development or Strategy roles as they seem to be geared towards "less sexy" careers such as Financial Reporting, Treasury, FP&A, Tax Accounting and Finance and Accounting Department Operations.

 
Mar 27, 2013 - 12:54pm

I honestly have no idea and I haven't looked for any. Note that I'm not in industry. I imagine if you get in with any of the major O&G (assuming they have a rotation), you'll be golden. Think BP, Chevron, etc.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Mar 27, 2013 - 4:30pm

Thanks! If go that route I'd be looking to break into an oil/gas FLDP after working at a Big4 firm (most likely)

"There are only two opinions in this world: Mine and the wrong one." -Jeremy Clarkson
 
Mar 27, 2013 - 6:59pm

jon1987:
Thanks! If go that route I'd be looking to break into an oil/gas FLDP after working at a Big4 firm (most likely)

Most companies won't let you do their FLDP if you're coming in as an experienced hire (i.e. not straight out of undergrad). You'll probably come in as an analyst (maybe senior, depending on your experience) in a specific group, meaning there will be no "rotation/program" - you'll just be a regular employee. If this is what you're thinking, make sure you get placed in a group you want to work in, otherwise you won't be happy.

 
Jul 17, 2013 - 11:59am

TechwithnoExp:

Really great post.

Links may need some updating will try to find a few.

http://careers.cellardoar.com/db

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Jul 17, 2013 - 4:04pm

Generally it's early fall, like the start of the fall semester for the top programs at least. Most companies want to get their recruiting done as early as possible.

Recruiting for internships varies, most will start their recruiting in the Fall and go about midway through spring.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Jul 17, 2013 - 8:56pm

I will not tell you to illegally download books. I will, however, tell you that Google is your friend.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Jul 18, 2013 - 2:57pm

Just from a quick search (AUS): http://www.bhpbilliton.com/home/people/graduates/Pages/graduateprogram.aspx

You'll have to go hunting, shouldn't be hard. Just start searching the biggest companies (scroll to top mining stocks: http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/content/en/mineweb-mining-finance-investment-old?oid=95737&sn=Detail) and check out their career pages.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Dec 13, 2013 - 5:57pm

It's been added to the guide to FLDP programs. Honestly, for the amount of work that went into putting the list together, that alone is probably worth the $30 price tag.

EDIT: I should say the amount of time it would take someone else to put a list like that together would probably be worth the price tag.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Dec 13, 2013 - 4:48pm

highly unfortunate

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
Dec 13, 2013 - 7:36pm
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