Current and Former recruiters, please just 1 minute of your time to read this thread..
Hi, I am a freshmen attending NYU Stern this fall and from reading a lot of sources (including this forum), I've learned that Stern is not that spectacular and, may be even looked down upon, especially compared to other prestigious universities like ivy leagues, Duke, Chicago etc.
I clearly do understand why (I am an ivy league reject myself except for Cornell), but since I am in it, I really would like to stand out among my student body, even just a little bit, in terms of recruiting. I plan to study hard in college, and prioritize academics, especially in order to make up for NYU Stern's lower quality.
I was thinking what would catch the attention of a recruiter better among these choices:
- A triple major in Finance, Accounting, Information systems
- A double major in Finance and Mathematics
This would be done in NYU Stern, so please take that into account.
Thanks you in advance..
Lower quality? Dude you're an idiot and so are those who "frown upon NYU". Contrary to what the "experts" on this forum and your sources say about NYU, the school is well represented in all areas in high finance. I wouldn't be surprised if NYU was top 3 in terms of total alum on the street now.
Don't get me wrong- NYU is a great school and I've got a lot of smart coworkers from there. But it's got a regional brand name. Cross the Appalachians, and nobody has heard of it.
Avoid Information Systems. CMU has one of the best MIS programs in the country and some of my friends from there- CS and CE majors, would call MIS "Technology for Dummies." An engineering discipline, on the other hand, probably can't hurt.
Stern has a very strong reputation on the street from what I can gather. Don't worry and don't take super-challenging classes or you'll have a low GPA. Just ask an alum or a senior going to work in the industry for advice on courses etc
agree about workload vs gpa....noone's going to find out you took x and y ridiculously hard classes if they dont look at your resume because you only have a 3.4; stick with 2 majors at the most and i dont think information systems is going to help you in IB recruiting...if you are interested in the S+T side maybe a programming background would be helpful, but still not IS.
no one gives a shit about gpa as long as its above 3.5.....sounds like you will have more trouble having a life outside the library and becoming an interesting person. do not prioritize academics, that is the surefire way of making yourself exactly like every other sternie. I'll add that Math/Finance double is very highly regarded if you are going into S&T/quant HFs. Only take it if you like and are good at math, hard work can only get you that far.
@Strombolli I'm sorry I didn't mean to come out that way but when I read through this forum, many people's posts seem to look down on Stern as an inferior school. Of course the more prestigious Stern actually is the happier I would be - after all I am attending it =)
@everyone
I'm just a freshmen I really don't know much, however what i do know is that I want to challenge myself in school and I was wondering if recruiters look upon that favorably to a significant extent. An additional major in stern (including finance) is just 4 extra courses (16 credits) hence triple majoring in Stern is do-able, especially with the abundance of elective classes one is offered (please correct me if I am wrong senior Sternies).
Do any others have feedback on this, especially recruiters? Am I being redundant (or crazy) by triple majoring? I am a freshmen afterall and I am just looking at possibilities.
Achieve Stern Scholar, join some clubs, get a solid SA and you should be fine
The notion that people haven't heard of NYU across the Appalachian is a bit ridiculous isn't it? I mean im in the deep south and people around here know about NYU (anyone interested in business / finance anyway).
NYU's reputation in Chicago is about the same as Duke's- an analogue might be Rose-Hullman or Wash. U's reputation in NYC. (Nobody has ever heard of them and one of my coworkers thought that Wash U. was in DC.) Everyone in NYC knows it's a great school- get too far away from New York, though, and people start getting it mixed up with BYU (Brigham Young).
I can confirm Illini's comment about Information Systems. I go-to a top engineering school, and IS (or the equivalent at our school) is for people couldn't handle the rigors of ee or cs. Finance + Math would position you very well. Also, take 1-2 programming classes; programming is extremely useful to know nowadays.
Don't triple major. Stop being a brat - humble is one thing, but nyu will do fine getting you on wall street. They're a target for every major bank. A few top students there even get buyside straight out of ug. Get involved on campus, get a 4.0 and start searching for internships and you'll be second only to Wharton, harvard, and Princeton Top students.
alright so based on posts, it seems that a finance/math double major seems to be a better combo than a triple major at NYU Stern>?
Forget prestige. NYU is one of the top feeders into IB programs. So if that's what you want to do, concentrate on getting a high GPA and you're on a good path. If you really want to work hard, don't triple major, look into night analyst programs. I have several friends who were night analysts as freshmen at top IBs - they go to class during the day and work late afternoon to midnight-ish. I don't know if I'd personally do that because by the time you're a first year analyst you'll be on the verge of burnout - but if you're aiming to load up on work, that's a better option than choosing more and more majors.
this is an obvious troll. nobody goes to a college and then goes on some internet forums thinking "hmm, i wonder if my college is considered prestigious"
and even if this is not a troll... dude, you're not a freshman. you're a high school kid who hasn't set foot on a college classroom yet. stop worrying about IBD recruiting. you have many other more important things to concern yourself with right now.
what the hell is wrong with you kids nowadays?
@Tennis11 & CharmWithSubstance & unqwertyfied
Thanks, your feedback is really appreciated. Just to get things clear, I guess the most important aspect in scoring an interview (for internships in junior/sophomore year) would be GPA I'm assuming. And for the night analyst programs, I think that would be kind of a burnout >, not to mention that I doubt I have a chance landing that position as a freshmen... But thanks for the heads up anyway =)
@kalice123
No, I am not a troll, I am genuinely asking this question. And yes, you are right, as of this moment I am a high school senior who's about to graduate in 5 days, but I am just trying to prepare myself for college as I did a lot of slacking off in high school and plan not to repeat the same mistake in college. And I am not just talking specifically with IBD recruiting - I am talking about recruiting in general for the financial industry.
As for your assumption of "hmm, i wonder if my college is considered prestigious" - I never said NYU Stern sucked or anything like that. I just merely stated that from reading wallstreetoasis discussions, which involve input from more professionals than high school kids like in CC, i got the general feeling that NYU Stern seems to be not viewed in great favor as compared to other prestigious universities such as the ivies, Duke, Uchig. However from the posts above, I am reassured that Stern is still up there, and will provide ample opportunities.
Back to my question: - Do recruiters notice triple majors or intensive double majors (Finance + Math) or do they just care about GPA (and in the case of NYU, if you're a Stern Finance major)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, at NYU stern a major is ~4 classes (at least I heard finance is 4). At my school a finance major is 10 classes. If someone was objectively comparing a finance major at xyz to a finance major at NYU they probably would not know the difference. Recruiters may know, but if you were to say out loud I majored in finance at NYU most people would not know how many classes that required or how in depth it is. As for 'intensive' how intense can a 4 class major get lol.
The finance major has 12 mandatory credits (4 classes) and 9 elective credits (3 classes). So, 7 total.
@mas1987
Hey, are you a Stern graduate? Do you know how many elective credits (or courses) one will have left after a Finance major?
Nope, I know how to read their undergrad business site, though. ;) Just take a look around their web site if you're truly interested. I'm planning on transferring schools after the fall semester and the two I'm looking at I've read backwards and forwards. Trust me, you want to know EVERYTHING about where you're going to spend 4 (or 3 or 2) years of your life.
7 classes and you get a major???? What the fuck..
Are you Asian by any chance?
Being humble is one thing, but for the love of God, please don't ever again describe yourself as an "Ivy League reject"
Especially when it's not even true.
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