What do you say to ppl who don’t know EVR/LAZ/CVP/PJT
Genuinely curious what people with these highly coveted summer internship or analyst roles say when you tell people who only know JPM/GS where you work. You work at some of the most well paid and impressive firms in finance but like 95% don’t know them. They’re super impressive if you know, but only 5% of the people you’d talk to on the street or family friends would actually know them.
So what do you say and how do you avoid feeling like you work at UBS/Baird/Stifel when telling people where you work? (ie because they just don’t know where you work…)
Not that this matters immensely and probably a neurotic thing to think about but out of curiosity what do you say/how do you convey the impressiveness of the firm to people who think Lazard is a four legged reptile?
Incoming SA 27 at EB — I say that I’m interning at an investment bank in New York. Genuinely no one has cared to ask where, so you were right to deduce that the statement you made was overly neurotic. You should be happy about your own achievements and not have to seek validation from others.
I work at a hedge fund 99% of people don’t know but people on the street do. When people ask what I do, I say I work in finance. If they ask further, I say I do investment research at a hedge fund. Thats usually when the convo switches to another topic, because 99% of people do not give a shit about your job or wall st.
This is true.
During my time in DL the easiest explanation to my foreign family is that I was indeed a bank teller.
Well first, congrats on Lazard. Let’s bump that puppy down to EB tier 2 along with Moelis and PWP, thanks.
Second, go get laid intern.
Right to bump Laz down to T2 but Moelis and PWP is considered a T3 EB or a Gugg/Roth/GHL/Non-EB-Non-MM in between nowadays no? PWP has lost all deal flow and Moelis NYC is unanimously viewed as a glorified MM.
Not trying to be rude, just trying to put out up to date info for prospects.
The classic "hate on your own bank/school in the first sentence so that no one could POSSIBLY think I have bias and then say some bullshit to make said bank look better then follow it up with a declaration of intellectual honesty."
One of my favorite moves, intern. I have to do it a lot since I go to stern
They pay top of street and exit to MFPE but no deal flow bro!! I would soooo much rather be at Jefferies and BofA earning a fraction of the money because of my sick ass deal flow bro
funny enough random girls at a bar would think working at UBS is better than CVP. Just say you work in banking no one cares
Solid bait.
genuinely how insecure does one have to be to want to accurately portray the impressiveness and prestige of the bank that he works at to the huzz / own family
It’s not coming from a place of insecurity, just from a highly invested family/grandparents/friends who want to know more but know nothing about finance etc. This isn’t about ego or girls, there are other things in this world lol
My freshman summer I interned at a firm with someone in his sophomore summer who said he had locked down an evercore offer for the following summer. I said I didnt know what that was. A little of him died inside in front of me.
I wonder if he died inside because you didn't know evercore or if it was because he realized he was interning at a firm full of retards... what finance intern after a full year of school working at a firm doesn't have even an inkling of what evercore is
What type of idiot can't tell he knew what that is and purposely said he didn't. You lack tact.
Jesus Christ dude
Ok, I’ve actually been in a similar spot.
Really feel you man here’s exactly what to do, step-by-step:
1) Go get laid
2) Go outside and touch some of that green stuff
3) Throw your phone in a deep lake
4) Go make a friend (AI chatbots and similar, sweaty asian/white prestige-whore sophomores don’t count)
What about the black ones
this isn’t about girls, mostly grandparents and family friends who genuinely know nothing at all abt these firms or finance in general. just wanted someone to help provide some sort of yardstick to use for comparison… no need to be a jerk!
do you really have a geometry dash pfp? yeah, you might be autistic
not geometry dash, it’s the entrance to a nightclub in Milan…
Who are you trying to impress to where this matters? I am assuming u r not getting laid.
When you're 26 then you will have finance groupies that will sleep with you because they know how impressive you are. When you are under 26, believe it or not, it doesn't matter how impressive you are, women will generally not sleep with you purely based on where you work. (If women prioritized this, why not just pick someone older? Or if they didn't prioritize it, why not date someone more fun?). After 26, you'll have a good 3 years -- knee deep in pussy. But be careful what u wish for because these will be what I call finance groupies that only date finance dudes because they are aware of these same prestige markers you are. After a few years you'll wish nobody knew anymore, because you'll not want the type of person who likes you for that reason. Believe it or not though, most people by this time (late 20s / early 30s) can't tell anymore -- they actually think people like them for their "personality" because you will actually most likely fail to meet anyone who is not a finance groupie. This is how dating apps work I'm sorry. Your therapist and others will have you believe that you must be just being hard on yourself - surely you have some redeeming traits and it's not only about that? You probably won't listen to me, but when ur life plays out like this in 10 yrs come back and tell me I was right ok.
lolz this isn’t about girls mostly family friends and grandparents but I hope this fantasy of yours plays out for you in the next 10 yrs
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You seem like a bundle of joy to work with!
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