Dress shirts without front breast pocket?

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Whats your take on this if you're not wearing a suit.
I've received few of these for Christmas.

Dress shirts without pocket

Dress shirts with pockets are decidedly more formal than dress shirts with pockets. The pockets add a bit utility to summer looks, it's a great place to hang those ray bans. Dress shirts without pockets can be casual as well. Such as sports shirts. Casual shirts like sports shirts can often be identified by their the fit, construction, collar, and color.
from certified user @VPGuerilla"

The only major downside to those is that you can't wear a pocket protector.
Seriously - nobody cares if your shirt has a breastpocket or not. Nobody.

from certified user @numi

Actually, dress shirts without breast pockets are more formal than ones without, and that's pretty much a fact. Have you ever seen a shirt with a tuxedo or morning jacket come with a pocket? I don't think so. Dress shirts with pockets didn't even come into existence until circa 1960's, when dress shirts really came to be more utilitarian rather than couture.

from certified user @eric809e

go with some of each, and decide in the morning what you feel like.

i would recommend wearing a shirt with a pocket when you're attending an event where you need to wear a nametag. It is always easier to attach one with a pocket than without.

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Dec 28, 2009

Those shirts are more formal than ones with breast pockets, but can still be worn business casual. I prefer shirts without breast pockets and have all my bespoke shirts made without them.

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Dec 30, 2009
numi:

Those shirts are more formal than ones with breast pockets, but can still be worn business casual. I prefer shirts without breast pockets and have all my bespoke shirts made without them.

Where do u get your shirts from? Noticed brass bones on M&I which seems reasonably priced, but I can't comment as to quality. Turnbull may be way out of my league price-wise. I have broad shoulders, but I'm pretty slim so most ready made shirts don't fit me well. Any suggests for an incoming 1st year on a budget?

Jan 3, 2010

Hello all,

I work with Brass Bones Custom Shirts and when I saw the post above I thought I would say hi. We personally don't feel that pockets belong on formal or business shirts as they break up the clean lines we strive for and keeping stuff in them can cause bulges under a properly fitting suit jacket. That said, these days it's not a hard and fast rule so we do offer them as an option on our shirts.

A lot of our customers in the UK and US are in banking / finance, and we've worked with many of them to offer advice and even company / industry promos and discounts. If anyone has questions about business attire or accessories I'd be happy to help wherever I can.

Hopefully my posting here doesn't fall afoul of the forum's rules. I'll probably go ahead and PM the mods to make sure we aren't stepping on any toes here, but I look forward to hanging out and contributing to the forum.

Best,

Cuth

Dec 28, 2009

Shirts without breast pockets look a lot better. I wouldn't say they look more formal, though. You can find casual shirts without pockets that look really good. So instead of saying that they look more formal, I'd rather say they look classier. Too bad that here in the U.S. almost all shirts have pockets.

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Dec 28, 2009

The only major downside to those is that you can't wear a pocket protector.
Seriously - nobody cares if your shirt has a breastpocket or not. Nobody.

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Dec 28, 2009

i order my shirts with out pockets

Dec 28, 2009

Always without pockets

Dec 28, 2009

Alright, noted!

thanks for the input guys!

Dec 28, 2009

If you wear a shirt with breast pockets your MD just rips them off, it's tradition

Dec 31, 2009

Actually, dress shirts without breast pockets are more formal than ones without, and that's pretty much a fact. Have you ever seen a shirt with a tuxedo or morning jacket come with a pocket? I don't think so. Dress shirts with pockets didn't even come into existence until circa 1960's, when dress shirts really came to be more utilitarian rather than couture.

hungry, I have my dress shirts made bespoke by W.W. Chan, one of the most renowned Hong Kong tailors. I first acquainted myself with them during a trip to Hong Kong several years ago, and realized that the quality of shirt I could get for around $140 far exceeded anything I could purchase in the States. Fortunately, W.W. Chan as well as the other major HK tailors come to the United States at least twice a year. If you are concerned about your businesswear, it would suit you well to find out the next time W.W. Chan, A-Man Hing Cheong, Gordon Yao, Ascot Chang or any of the other HK tailors visits your state (they tour all the major U.S. cities) and meet with them to get your measurements taken and have 2-3 shirts made.

With that said, if you just want dress shirts for functional purposes and are looking for slim-fitting shirts, I think Charles Tyrwhitt makes some of the slimmest slim-fit shirts. Shoulder-to-shoulder measurements on a size 15 or 15.5 shirt is usually around 17", if I recall correctly, and they have a more tapered look than Brooks Brothers. Even if they don't fit you perfectly, you're probably best off just buying a bunch of shirts on the cheap right now -- many of the men's stores are having sales at the moment. You won't find something that fits you perfectly unless you go bespoke, but the next best thing you can do is to find a good off-the-rack shirt that fits you at the shoulders; sleeve and waist alterations can be made easily, but if the shirt doesn't fit you at the shoulders, it won't look good and that's a tough alteration to make.

Hope that helps!

Jan 3, 2010

It looks like numi is a bit of a clothes horse. His advice is very sound, although I would add that Brooks Brothers or Charles Tyrwhitt OTR is plenty for someone that is just starting out their career.

Jan 3, 2010

Given the option, leave the pocket off (in other words, go for shirts without the pocket). Pocketless shirts are more formal and professional. Honestly, it's not a big deal and I've seen many analysts up to Ds wearing shirts with pockets as well as shirts without pockets - but, given that you haven't bought the shirts yet and are now going to buy one or the other, go with pocketless.

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Jan 3, 2010

i recommend having two buttoned pockets, one on each side of the chest. i like to keep my apples in there.

Jan 3, 2010

If the pockets do not have pearl buttons, you have gone wrong.

Jan 3, 2010

go with some of each, and decide in the morning what you feel like.

i would recommend wearing a shirt with a pocket when you're attending an event where you need to wear a nametag. It is always easier to attach one with a pocket than without.

Jan 3, 2010

As someone indicated above, pockets make shirts less formal. When buying shirts, I usually go pocketless for shirts that I could use with a suit, whereas I may go with a pocket for shirts that I would use only for business casual.

Example: Plain white or light blue shirt, I'd go pocketless, so that I have the flexibility to wear those shirts with a suit as well as business casual. Purple gingham shirt, I'd probably not be wearing that with a suit, so I may go with a pocket on that one since I will likely only use it for business casual.

Note though that most people won't notice/care that you're wearing a dress shirt w/ a pocket with your suit, as long as the dress shirt is conservatively styled.

Jan 3, 2010

+1!

Jan 3, 2010

No pockets for the office, ever. They're ugly as hell on dress shirts, and the only people I've seen with them on are overall sloppy dressers that wear the same three ties a week.

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Jan 3, 2010

I don't know why, but it drives me nuts that so many damn people ask about the smallest fashion details. If someone actually cares whether you have a pocket on your shirt or not, they are probably insecure about something.

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Jan 3, 2010

In 2015, in general, you don't have pockets. Are you a social outcast if one of your shirts has a pocket? No, just like you aren't a complete weirdo if your suit isn't perfectly fitted. Still, it's not the best look.

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Jan 3, 2010

I like my shirts plain and simple. Block colours and no pockets.

Jan 3, 2010

No pockets please

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Really ? Where in the world are you gonna keep your pants ?

Jan 3, 2010

I like pockets...they come in handy

Jan 3, 2010

I shop at J Crew almost exclusively and they all have pockets. They look clean and isn't noticeable from far away.

Jan 3, 2010

2 pockets: 1 for your HP 12C and 1 for your pens, sharpie's etc

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Jan 3, 2010

These discussions drive me nuts. Now people turn to WSO to ask how to dress for work...

Jan 3, 2010

The sartorial rule of old is that a gentleman needs no pocket on his shirt because he isn't working manually and therefore needs no place to put the tools of his trade. A laborer needs the pocket(s) to put his pencil, pen, knife, handkerchief, what-have-you.

It's not a dealbreaker to have a pocket on your shirt, but it's definitely "dressier" to have them without. Does this mean you need to go toss out every shirt in your wardrobe and spend $2,000 picking up 10 new shirts? No. Going forward though, you know what to look for.

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Jan 3, 2010

Disagree with entirely

Jan 3, 2010

I almost exclusively buy button ups without pockets. In reality, if it's meant to be worn with a tie, versus a more casual oxford (i.e. Lacoste), then no pockets for sure.

Jan 3, 2010

You've got to be joking - seriously - no silly pockets and no stupid button ups or downs - simple

Jan 3, 2010

Of course WITH pocket. Where else would you put your calculator and pencils when you walk around looking like a total nerd?

Jan 3, 2010

No go on pockets.

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

Jan 3, 2010

It has to have a pocket. Any day of the week. Much of it comes down to always keeping a pen in my shirt pocket and wanting a place to put my glasses if I take them off. Outside of that, it's all about personal preference.

Jan 3, 2010

You stuff it in between the 3rd and the 4th button down like normal people do.

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Jan 3, 2010

touche. fuck pockets

Jan 3, 2010

Pretty hilarious thread

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Jan 3, 2010

Flip it over your shoulder.

Jan 3, 2010

throw it over you shoulder...or use it for toilet paper in an emergency (a sock is a cheaper alternative, but then your ass is going to smell like toe-cheese)

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