Dress shirts without front breast pocket?

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Whats your take on this if you're not wearing a suit.
I've received few of these for Christmas.

Dress shirts without pocket

Dress shirts with pockets are decidedly more formal than dress shirts with pockets. The pockets add a bit utility to summer looks, it's a great place to hang those ray bans. Dress shirts without pockets can be casual as well. Such as sports shirts. Casual shirts like sports shirts can often be identified by their the fit, construction, collar, and color.
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The only major downside to those is that you can't wear a pocket protector.
Seriously - nobody cares if your shirt has a breastpocket or not. Nobody.

from certified user @numi"

Actually, dress shirts without breast pockets are more formal than ones without, and that's pretty much a fact. Have you ever seen a shirt with a tuxedo or morning jacket come with a pocket? I don't think so. Dress shirts with pockets didn't even come into existence until circa 1960's, when dress shirts really came to be more utilitarian rather than couture.

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go with some of each, and decide in the morning what you feel like.

i would recommend wearing a shirt with a pocket when you're attending an event where you need to wear a nametag. It is always easier to attach one with a pocket than without.

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Dec 28, 2009 - 3:40am

Those shirts are more formal than ones with breast pockets, but can still be worn business casual. I prefer shirts without breast pockets and have all my bespoke shirts made without them.

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Dec 30, 2009 - 8:28pm

numi:
Those shirts are more formal than ones with breast pockets, but can still be worn business casual. I prefer shirts without breast pockets and have all my bespoke shirts made without them.

Where do u get your shirts from? Noticed brass bones on M&I which seems reasonably priced, but I can't comment as to quality. Turnbull may be way out of my league price-wise. I have broad shoulders, but I'm pretty slim so most ready made shirts don't fit me well. Any suggests for an incoming 1st year on a budget?

 
Jan 3, 2010 - 12:39pm

Hello all,

I work with Brass Bones Custom Shirts and when I saw the post above I thought I would say hi. We personally don’t feel that pockets belong on formal or business shirts as they break up the clean lines we strive for and keeping stuff in them can cause bulges under a properly fitting suit jacket. That said, these days it’s not a hard and fast rule so we do offer them as an option on our shirts.

A lot of our customers in the UK and US are in banking / finance, and we’ve worked with many of them to offer advice and even company / industry promos and discounts. If anyone has questions about business attire or accessories I’d be happy to help wherever I can.

Hopefully my posting here doesn’t fall afoul of the forum’s rules. I’ll probably go ahead and PM the mods to make sure we aren’t stepping on any toes here, but I look forward to hanging out and contributing to the forum.

Best,

Cuth

 
Dec 28, 2009 - 8:30am

Shirts without breast pockets look a lot better. I wouldn't say they look more formal, though. You can find casual shirts without pockets that look really good. So instead of saying that they look more formal, I'd rather say they look classier. Too bad that here in the U.S. almost all shirts have pockets.

 
Dec 28, 2009 - 11:00am

The only major downside to those is that you can't wear a pocket protector.
Seriously - nobody cares if your shirt has a breastpocket or not. Nobody.

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Dec 31, 2009 - 12:04am

Actually, dress shirts without breast pockets are more formal than ones without, and that's pretty much a fact. Have you ever seen a shirt with a tuxedo or morning jacket come with a pocket? I don't think so. Dress shirts with pockets didn't even come into existence until circa 1960's, when dress shirts really came to be more utilitarian rather than couture.

hungry, I have my dress shirts made bespoke by W.W. Chan, one of the most renowned Hong Kong tailors. I first acquainted myself with them during a trip to Hong Kong several years ago, and realized that the quality of shirt I could get for around $140 far exceeded anything I could purchase in the States. Fortunately, W.W. Chan as well as the other major HK tailors come to the United States at least twice a year. If you are concerned about your businesswear, it would suit you well to find out the next time W.W. Chan, A-Man Hing Cheong, Gordon Yao, Ascot Chang or any of the other HK tailors visits your state (they tour all the major U.S. cities) and meet with them to get your measurements taken and have 2-3 shirts made.

With that said, if you just want dress shirts for functional purposes and are looking for slim-fitting shirts, I think Charles Tyrwhitt makes some of the slimmest slim-fit shirts. Shoulder-to-shoulder measurements on a size 15 or 15.5 shirt is usually around 17", if I recall correctly, and they have a more tapered look than Brooks Brothers. Even if they don't fit you perfectly, you're probably best off just buying a bunch of shirts on the cheap right now -- many of the men's stores are having sales at the moment. You won't find something that fits you perfectly unless you go bespoke, but the next best thing you can do is to find a good off-the-rack shirt that fits you at the shoulders; sleeve and waist alterations can be made easily, but if the shirt doesn't fit you at the shoulders, it won't look good and that's a tough alteration to make.

Hope that helps!

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Jan 3, 2010 - 1:47pm

Given the option, leave the pocket off (in other words, go for shirts without the pocket). Pocketless shirts are more formal and professional. Honestly, it's not a big deal and I've seen many analysts up to Ds wearing shirts with pockets as well as shirts without pockets - but, given that you haven't bought the shirts yet and are now going to buy one or the other, go with pocketless.

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Jan 3, 2010 - 1:52pm

As someone indicated above, pockets make shirts less formal. When buying shirts, I usually go pocketless for shirts that I could use with a suit, whereas I may go with a pocket for shirts that I would use only for business casual.

Example: Plain white or light blue shirt, I'd go pocketless, so that I have the flexibility to wear those shirts with a suit as well as business casual. Purple gingham shirt, I'd probably not be wearing that with a suit, so I may go with a pocket on that one since I will likely only use it for business casual.

Note though that most people won't notice/care that you're wearing a dress shirt w/ a pocket with your suit, as long as the dress shirt is conservatively styled.

 
Jan 3, 2010 - 2:05pm

The sartorial rule of old is that a gentleman needs no pocket on his shirt because he isn't working manually and therefore needs no place to put the tools of his trade. A laborer needs the pocket(s) to put his pencil, pen, knife, handkerchief, what-have-you.

It's not a dealbreaker to have a pocket on your shirt, but it's definitely "dressier" to have them without. Does this mean you need to go toss out every shirt in your wardrobe and spend $2,000 picking up 10 new shirts? No. Going forward though, you know what to look for.

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Jan 3, 2010 - 2:12pm

shirts with pockets vs those without (Originally Posted: 07/16/2010)

first, i dont need you telling me to search the forums because this has already been discussed dozens of times...i know. im not here to agrue with high schoolers about what the fuck i should wear to work i dont give a shit its just clothes. second, its been a long week and i want to curse so if youre going to bitch leave now and go read the bernstein bears. now to my point...

ive heard all of you fashionistas on here blabbing about how omg my bespoke shirts are so fucking tight and they fit so much better than this and that, and oh the shirts i get from jermyn street in london are so trendy blah blah blah, and the best part, they dont have those goddamn annoying pockets that look so gay and "american"

well, ive got a question for you sons of bitches...where the fuck do you roll up the bottom 12 inches of your tie and stuff it into while you shit at work if you have no shirt pocket

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