female ignorance in terms of finance

This is something that I've been meaning to bring up for a long time. So, apparently most women in NYC don't know the difference among different professions in finance. Initially, when women asked me "what do you do" I'd proudly reply with "Well, I work on Wall St. at (insert BB name)." The reactions were very counter-intuitive however. Some women truly did not give a fuck, and conversation went on.

Others followed my reply with stuff like "oh, you guys do taxes and stuff, right?" or "oh, do you work at the exchange building and stuff?" as well as a few crazy hippies who condemned my occupation. So, just a heads up to you prospective monkeys ... If you think that chicks will be super impressed by "I work at Goldman Sachs" ... trust me, the odds are that they won't know what it is. In fact, one of the worst replies I've heard so far was "oh, well, it's not as exciting as being a bartender or a photographer, but you gotta do what you gotta do to make money." #FML

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Jul 7, 2012

You are talking to some dumbass women.

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Jul 7, 2012

Just say you work in Mergers and Acquisitions, and wink.

Jul 7, 2012
Boreed:

Just say you work in Mergers and Acquisitions, and wink.

"murders and execution"...wink

Jul 8, 2012
captainkoolaid:
Boreed:

Just say you work in Mergers and Acquisitions, and wink.

"murders and execution"...wink

Works like a charm.

Jul 7, 2012

Its for the best relatively few understand Finance.

Here to learn and hopefully pass on some knowledge as well. SB if I helped.

Jul 7, 2012

I'm sure if you worked at Citi you would get those kind of responses...

Jul 7, 2012

it's a sad day in hell when you finally realize that chicks care more about the size of your johnson than your bank account... its an even sadder day when you realize they're both small

GBS

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Jul 9, 2012
GoldmanBallSachs:

it's a sad day in hell when you finally realize that chicks care more about the size of your johnson than your bank account... its an even sadder day when you realize they're both small

this. why did this man receive monkey shit? one of the realest answers ive ever read on wso

TRUE STORY: The prospect asked me, "What's it like to work at ****?"
I asked him, "You ever been to Home Depot?"
"Yes"
"Well, it's like that. It's full of fucking tools." And he stared, innocently wide-eyed and nodded with deep understanding

Jul 7, 2012

I find most people don't care what your actual position is, only the company you work at. You could be a janitor but if you say "Oh I work at Google" they'll be super impressed anyway.

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Jul 7, 2012

the worst is when you say you want to work in banking/finance and people think you want to be a fucking bank teller

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Jul 7, 2012
ChrisHansen:

the worst is when you say you want to work in banking/finance and people think you want to be a fucking bank teller

That is the most common one haha

Jul 10, 2012
ChrisHansen:

the worst is when you say you want to work in banking/finance and people think you want to be a fucking bank teller

Hahaha this reminded me of this video. Every misconception of finance.
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/blog/adam-the-analy...

Jul 10, 2012
ChrisHansen:

the worst is when you say you want to work in banking/finance and people think you want to be a fucking bank teller

The worst is when you try to pick up chicks by saying you work in banking/finance

Jul 10, 2012
ChrisHansen:

the worst is when you say you want to work in banking/finance and people think you want to be a fucking bank teller

Hahah, my beloved mum is guilty of this one. I can't tell you how many times I heard, "OMG, we paid THAT much for school, and you're gonna go work at the bank?" of course, while making a face like I just told her I wanted to drive a garbage truck.

But I explained it. Many times.

Jul 7, 2012

I say I want to work in investment banking, and the reply runs along the lines of; "Oh, so you want to take care of people's retirement money and stuff?" I just nod and move on, while on the inside I die a little.

Jul 8, 2012

"What stock should I buy?" -- that one always irritates me. This one usually happens sitting next to someone on a a plane or equivalent.

Jul 8, 2012
SirPoopsaLot:

"What stock should I buy?" -- that one always irritates me. This one usually happens sitting next to someone on a a plane or equivalent.

haha, some might ask because of a potential deal that is in the works. People try to take out as much info as possible.

Jul 10, 2012
SirPoopsaLot:

"What stock should I buy?" -- that one always irritates me. This one usually happens sitting next to someone on a a plane or equivalent.

RIM.

Jul 26, 2012
SirPoopsaLot:

"What stock should I buy?" -- that one always irritates me. This one usually happens sitting next to someone on a a plane or equivalent.

I always just say the name of my bank. Usually they get it and laugh it off.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

Jul 8, 2012

I would give the women with the counterintuitive responses a little more slack. Suppose you asked one of them what she did for a living and she came up with a career that you weren't familiar with. Your initial ignorance would be less important than your level of interest--and your ability to ask her intelligent questions to learn more about her...

Howard Schwartz

See my WSO blog

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Jul 8, 2012

Why are you talking about where you work with woman you are trying to ground and pound?

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

Jul 8, 2012

Wait, so you flat out stated that you work on Wall Street, and yet they gave you those dumb-fuck responses as if you're some kind of bank teller? You're hitting on idiots.

Jul 8, 2012

I've specifically told girls that I work at an event-driven hedge fund, and they immediately ask if I'm in risk arbitrage even though event-driven covers a much broader span of situations (e.g. bankruptcies, restructurings, spinoffs). Some girls are just really vapid and ignorant, ignore them. Girls: EVENT DRIVEN DOESN'T JUST MEAN M&A

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Jul 26, 2012
firefighter:

I've specifically told girls that I work at an event-driven hedge fund, and they immediately ask if I'm in risk arbitrage even though event-driven covers a much broader span of situations (e.g. bankruptcies, restructurings, spinoffs). Some girls are just really vapid and ignorant, ignore them. Girls: EVENT DRIVEN DOESN'T JUST MEAN M&A

I lol'd far harder than I should have

Jul 8, 2012

When someone tells me they're an engineer, I ask them if they get to toot the horn to get the cows off the tracks. Does that make me ignorant?

Jul 9, 2012
olafenizer:

When someone tells me they're an engineer, I ask them if they get to toot the horn to get the cows off the tracks. Does that make me ignorant?

LOL

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.

Jul 8, 2012

Dude, what do you expect?

Competition is a sin.

-John D. Rockefeller

Jul 8, 2012

Wait...you guys actually tell the truth?

Jul 8, 2012

I was out recently and there was a guy hitting on a group of girls next to me. Within a few seconds he asked them what they did for a living. When they asked him, he said, "I work on the buy-side" and waited for a reaction.

rolls eyes gimme a break man. If that's the way you hit on women, you're doing it wrong.

BossMode

Jul 10, 2012
sick_willy:

I was out recently and there was a guy hitting on a group of girls next to me. Within a few seconds he asked them what they did for a living. When they asked him, he said, "I work on the buy-side" and waited for a reaction.

Maybe he meant that he was on the buy-side of sexual services. Any chance the girls he was talking to were from the sell-side?

Jul 8, 2012

lol, well do you know what the top 5 advertising / PR agencies are? Top law firms? top media / talent groups? Do you even know what people do there?

I have no fucking clue except for what I see on madmen / entourage / suits...

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Jul 9, 2012
couchy:

lol, well do you know what the top 5 advertising / PR agencies are? Top law firms? top media / talent groups? Do you even know what people do there?

I have no fucking clue except for what I see on madmen / entourage / suits...

I'm glad someone said this.

Jul 9, 2012
couchy:

lol, well do you know what the top 5 advertising / PR agencies are? Top law firms? top media / talent groups? Do you even know what people do there?

I have no fucking clue except for what I see on madmen / entourage / suits...

SB for you

Jul 10, 2012
SirBarney:
couchy:

lol, well do you know what the top 5 advertising / PR agencies are? Top law firms? top media / talent groups? Do you even know what people do there?

I have no fucking clue except for what I see on madmen / entourage / suits...

SB for you

"I'm a closer"

"Like a baseball closer?"

The Knicks are back?

Jul 10, 2012

OP, it seems that you have absolutely zero game..you need to re-evaluate your life

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Jul 10, 2012

I tell them that I'm an aspiring R&B singer but currently working in a fund so I can self-finance my album. Then I sing them a little lullaby in a short while.

Baby you're the perfect shape, baby you're the perfect weight. Treat me like my birthday, I want it this way and I want it that way. It makes a man feel good baby.

Jul 10, 2012

My former roommate used to tell girls that he was a rodeo clown...didn't normally work out very well, but it was so awesome. Girls in NYC have no humor.

He had a whole back story about it. I told them that I was in historical architecture restoration. If they dug in, I'd tell them that I specialized in gargoyles.

Jul 10, 2012
TechBanking:

My former roommate used to tell girls that he was a rodeo clown...didn't normally work out very well, but it was so awesome. Girls in NYC have no humor.

He had a whole back story about it. I told them that I was in historical architecture restoration. If they dug in, I'd tell them that I specialized in gargoyles.

Fucking awesome... with my extended family I usually just told them I was a bank teller to avoid all the confusion and the questions. When picking up girls I always said I was a professional pinball player. If they asked more about it I'd mention my fingers are lightning quick, I push all the right buttons, and I'm pretty talented when leaning over tables. Actually worked out pretty well...

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Jul 10, 2012

My favorite litmus test was to tell a girl that "I am a cigarette lighter repair man." They give you this stupid look and then you follow up with "you know, when you own a mercedes and the lighter goes out you come to me to fix it." I just troll in real life. Any girl asking you what you do is too pussy to just ask you how much cash do you have and what do you expect to earn in the future; so have some fun with them.

Jul 10, 2012

If one of those girls told you that she was a Paleontologist, or she is a cross-talent controller, or a relationship developer you wouldn't know wtf that is, so I suggest you branch outside of your brain and realize that just because you love finance and happen to be knowledgeable about it, doesn't mean that every one else who doesn't share your interest is ignorant, on the contrary, it shows you think in a one dimensional way and you should go out more often.

Jul 10, 2012
Disincentivy:

If one of those girls told you that she was a Paleontologist, or she is a cross-talent controller, or a relationship developer you wouldn't know wtf that is, so I suggest you branch outside of your brain and realize that just because you love finance and happen to be knowledgeable about it, doesn't mean that every one else who doesn't share your interest is ignorant, on the contrary, it shows you think in a one dimensional way and you should go out more often.

I used to date a Paleontologist, she was crazy in bed... all she ever wanted to do was dig around for bones.

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Jul 10, 2012
BlackHat:
Disincentivy:

If one of those girls told you that she was a Paleontologist, or she is a cross-talent controller, or a relationship developer you wouldn't know wtf that is, so I suggest you branch outside of your brain and realize that just because you love finance and happen to be knowledgeable about it, doesn't mean that every one else who doesn't share your interest is ignorant, on the contrary, it shows you think in a one dimensional way and you should go out more often.

I used to date a Paleontologist, she was crazy in bed... all she ever wanted to do was dig around for bones.

Did she brush you off after she'd found what she needed?

Jul 10, 2012
BlackHat:
Disincentivy:

If one of those girls told you that she was a Paleontologist, or she is a cross-talent controller, or a relationship developer you wouldn't know wtf that is, so I suggest you branch outside of your brain and realize that just because you love finance and happen to be knowledgeable about it, doesn't mean that every one else who doesn't share your interest is ignorant, on the contrary, it shows you think in a one dimensional way and you should go out more often.

I used to date a Paleontologist, she was crazy in bed... all she ever wanted to do was dig around for bones.

SB for you and your stupid, stupid jokes.

Jul 10, 2012

I tell girls that I'm a bum and that I hire a retarded person in which I rub their hair. I give them location and all the details. They laugh and I'm still mysterious. I win

There is life and death. I'm going to bust my ass to make an impact 'til the latter comes.

Jul 10, 2012

If you actually got game it won't matter what you do for a living, because in the morning you will be the one saying "..Get to stepping....".............word.

Keep it together and you will go far..

Jul 10, 2012

Your job is just like your GPA. Your GPA is just an initial screening tool; you can rely on it for a firm to give you the time of day, but it isn't going to get you the offer. Similarly, a girl will humor you once you pass the initial screening, but you can't rely on your job, generally, to seal the deal.

Hope this helps

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Jul 10, 2012

Was talking to a group of girls / friends over the weekend. It came up that i worked in M&A, and they collectively said "OMG, like Christian Grey?" (50 shades of grey)

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Jul 10, 2012
M Friedman:

Was talking to a group of girls / friends over the weekend. It came up that i worked in M&A, and they collectively said "OMG, like Christian Grey?" (50 shades of grey)

I've been using that book to explain my job lately lol. It's completely inaccurate, but it comes highly recommended. Also mention that you're into the same shit as him and have a Blue Room of Anguish somewhere in your house.

Jul 10, 2012

Sometimes when I go out with friends that are also in finance, we each write down an occupation on a piece of paper and put them in a jar. The jar then gets passed around and whatever occupation is on your piece of paper that's your job for the evening (redraw if you pick your own). I've been a butcher, garbageman, pilot, you name it.

Has worked out pretty well most of the time.

Jul 10, 2012

If you got to showoff your wallet aka what you do for work, you mind as well find the black car and get a hooker for the night and save the conversation game. Honestly, it is one of the worst things to do. You come off like a prick if you got a good job aka arrogant. And aka it is not spitting game. I only ask about work if girl says I gotta work in the morning or I got so much work etc. But I never bring it up until after she does. If she said I am MD @ blah and blah would it matter that night. Maybe in future, but get to know more what she likes to do and then if she brings up work, work it in. Duh

Jul 10, 2012

I know what you mean. I'm a finance major and stopped trying to explain my aspirations/activities to people long ago. If you really don't care about these girls, say something along the lines of "You heard of all those evil bankers in the news? I'm one."

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." - IlliniProgrammer

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Jul 10, 2012

munn on Flickr

"I did it for me...I liked it...I was good at it. And I was really... I was alive."

Jul 10, 2012

Friend of mine used to tell girls he was a pilot. Worked every fucking time.

Jul 10, 2012
neilol:

Friend of mine used to tell girls he was a pilot. Worked every fucking time.

During all my years of flying, this never worked as well as I always had hoped it would. I regularly had broads show surprise that the navy even had pilots. I have met a lot of dumb people in my life, but the fairer sex dominates in that catagory.

Jul 10, 2012
FormerHornetDriver:
neilol:

Friend of mine used to tell girls he was a pilot. Worked every fucking time.

During all my years of flying, this never worked as well as I always had hoped it would. I regularly had broads show surprise that the navy even had pilots. I have met a lot of dumb people in my life, but the fairer sex dominates in that catagory.

Yea I don't even bother telling people I fly because it isn't something they can relate to typically, so it doesn't register as being worth anything to them. It's kind of a "Cool story, bro." reaction.

Jul 10, 2012

This is ridiculous this is like when a girl tells you she just bought some red bottoms, you look at her like she is crazy, you don't give a shit and you proceed to ask her if she get them from Walmart.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

Jul 10, 2012
bfin:

This is ridiculous this is like when a girl tells you she just bought some red bottoms, you look at her like she is crazy, you don't give a shit and you proceed to ask her if she get them from Walmart.

LOL

Jul 10, 2012

Brutal. If you're looking for a fun night, lie. If you're looking for a wife, she'll understand. Fuckin chicks, eh.

Jul 10, 2012
CanadianPositiveCarry:

This is something that I've been meaning to bring up for a long time. So, apparently most women in NYC don't know the difference among different professions in finance. Initially, when women asked me "what do you do" I'd proudly reply with "Well, I work on Wall St. at (insert BB name)." The reactions were very counter-intuitive however. Some women truly did not give a fuck, and conversation went on.

Others followed my reply with stuff like "oh, you guys do taxes and stuff, right?" or "oh, do you work at the exchange building and stuff?" as well as a few crazy hippies who condemned my occupation. So, just a heads up to you prospective monkeys ... If you think that chicks will be super impressed by "I work at Goldman Sachs" ... trust me, the odds are that they won't know what it is. In fact, one of the worst replies I've heard so far was "oh, well, it's not as exciting as being a bartender or a photographer, but you gotta do what you gotta do to make money." #FML

This is a very confusing thread. Are you pissed because your "prestigious" job doesn't impress chicks?

If that's the case, you really need to step up your game.

Jul 10, 2012
txjustin:

This is a very confusing thread. Are you pissed because your "prestigious" job doesn't impress chicks?

If that's the case, you really need to step up your game.

+1

But I'll give him a break, I'm sure it's been a while since he's hit on women.
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/ignoring-per...
PS if this is the only reason to #fml you're a complete fucking tool.

Jul 10, 2012

Professional Pinball Player? Rodeo Clown?

Take notes, monkeys.

Jul 10, 2012

If you wanna impress them, dont bother going into detail about positions or even firms (unless its GS; if you tell girls Citi they go "Where in the city?" and BoA they'll think you work for the fucking government).

"I work on Wall Street" should be enough to let them know that you got that caysh moneh.

Damn you Rodger!

My WSO Blog

Jul 10, 2012

We went to India this summer, and my cousins asked me what I wanted to do. My brother jumps in and said "bank telling" I wanted to fucking rip his fucking dick off and put it down his fucking throat.

Jul 10, 2012

Atleast the girls you meet don't think that BoA is the central bank of the US.

Jul 10, 2012

I had a guy and his wing man approach my friend and I at a happy hour in NYC. One of the guys went on and on how he's a banker, he's a big Wall St baller, etc. My friend was fascinated. Then he tells us he's a vice president to which my friend replied "really? do you know the president?". This is where I've had it. I went on asking the guy which group he works in, what products, which building, if he knows such and such. Turns out he was a back office loser. He was so intimidated that I knew exactly what he was talking about and was no longer the "vice president" of the attention; he was shortly gone from the bar. Word of advice boys, girls aren't ask dumb as you think, we just act it sometimes :)

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Jul 10, 2012
WonderWoman:

Word of advice boys, girls aren't ask dumb as you think, we just act it sometimes :)

Lol this is true.

Jul 10, 2012
WonderWoman:

I had a guy and his wing man approach my friend and I at a happy hour in NYC. One of the guys went on and on how he's a banker, he's a big Wall St baller, etc. My friend was fascinated. Then he tells us he's a vice president to which my friend replied "really? do you know the president?". This is where I've had it. I went on asking the guy which group he works in, what products, which building, if he knows such and such. Turns out he was a back office loser. He was so intimidated that I knew exactly what he was talking about and was no longer the "vice president" of the attention; he was shortly gone from the bar. Word of advice boys, girls aren't ask dumb as you think, we just act it sometimes :)

Brilliant. That's when I love being a girl. The shut-em-down moment where you can see them deflate like a Looney Toons character. Kills me :D

Jul 11, 2012
WonderWoman:

I had a guy and his wing man approach my friend and I at a happy hour in NYC. One of the guys went on and on how he's a banker, he's a big Wall St baller, etc. My friend was fascinated. Then he tells us he's a vice president to which my friend replied "really? do you know the president?". This is where I've had it. I went on asking the guy which group he works in, what products, which building, if he knows such and such. Turns out he was a back office loser. He was so intimidated that I knew exactly what he was talking about and was no longer the "vice president" of the attention; he was shortly gone from the bar. Word of advice boys, girls aren't ask dumb as you think, we just act it sometimes :)

Damn, shutty. That hate for us BO/MO folk.

Jul 10, 2012

I had a girl go "So you're a banker?" and I got fucking pissed. I was like "Do I look dumb enough to spend 100+ hours a week at work?"

Jul 11, 2012

I tell chicks that i'm TheRapist, and even went to princeton for it

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Jul 11, 2012

I'm sure you don't all understand what jobs everyone does and everyone deals with the same thing.

I have some friends who are engineers. Some of them create vaccines, one specialise in prosthetics and artificial organs, one of them is a civil engineer and deals with sanitation. They still get the "oh, do you build bridges" when they say they are engineers.

Most of you probably wouldn't understand what doctors do. Many still get the "oh, so I should come to you when I'm sick), despite them perhaps being a very specialised field. Even plastic surgeons get the "Oh, so you give chicks botox and fake boobs" when much of what they are doing is mole removal and mastectomies when people get breast cancer.

And of course the law profession is the same. You get the "Oh, you can help me with my divorce or get out of my speeding and drink driving charge" even though you might be a civil lawyer, in house, dealing with very specific issues such as Intellectual property and trademark law. Accountants get the "Oh, can you help me with my taxes" although the lawyer is actually legally allowed to give you advice on your taxes, while an accountant who isn't credited in tax law (and instead may be in audit or another area) won't be allowed to.

You're not that special because chicks don't understand your profession.

Finance is complicated. That's why you're gettting paid well for it. If everyone understood what you do, everyone would do it.

Honestly, I've been a lurker on WSO for 6 mths, took some finance classes in college, worked for a Bank previously, and I still don't understand what all the possible finance roles are. I still struggle to work out whether why M&A is so popular when in our Strategic planning courses they told us that only about 13% Of mergers are actually successful (this isn't a criticism of M&A, it's just what they told us at uni). When I was interviewing for grad positions at the Big 4 banks, I still didn't clearly understand what the job role actually was.

So I'd urge you to give the random girls you're trying to hook up with a little bit of grace, if they don't automatically know straight away the size of your bonus check last year when you say your profession. It's probably in your best interest if they don't.

Jul 11, 2012
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