How do I get a girlfriend?

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I'm a very career oriented college student, and spend most of my time studying in college to get into law school for corporate law. I'm nearly done with my first year of college looking to finish with a 4.00, have interned at a fortune 500 company, and have an offer for a fortune 50 internship this coming summer. What I don't have going for me are personal relationships.

Plato once said that beauty is a reflection of the soul. So I suppose I should be looking for a girlfriend who has similar interests. It's been difficult so far though, since I go to a small rural school with no professionally-minded people. What's worse is that the odds are in my favor at my school, with 60% females and 40% males and I haven't found someone with chemistry.

I'm not looking to shoehorn a relationship with anyone, but I suppose I'm asking where is a good place to look? Where would Wallstreet types look?

Comments (157)

Apr 19, 2015

lol

Apr 19, 2015

You asking this to WSO is like an alcoholic going to a bar and asking how to quit drinking

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Apr 19, 2015

Joining a fraternity helped me improve my social skills during college.

Apr 19, 2015

Be careful what you wish for...

Apr 19, 2015

This will be detailed in the next WSO Technical guide, be patient.

Apr 19, 2015

Maybe you should quit quoting Plato as a freshman in college? That can't be helping...

Apr 19, 2015
SouthernOregonIntern:

I'm not looking to shoehorn a relationship with anyone, but I suppose I'm asking where is a good place to look? Where would Wallstreet types look?

Here's an idea: the next time you see a girl that you find interesting (pretty, smart, funny, whatever), go up to her, say hi, remember to smile, and ask her a question.

"Hey you are one of the few women in this class, why do you think more girls don't sign up?"
"Hey there is an awfully long ling for this restaurant, what makes it so good?"
"I thought that question you asked was very insightful, what made you come to that conclusion?"
"Excuse me, I couldn't help but overhear you like XXXX - I'm a big fan also, have you seen them in concert?"

You'll know very quickly if the conversation is going anywhere.

Remember that girls are people; talking to/picking them up/dating them isn't rocket science and anyone who tells you different is an idiot.

Apr 19, 2015

Given where you go to school, you may not find people that you click with. I thought I was lost until I moved out of the blue-collar ghetto I grew up in, and only fully came into my own among people like me after I started working in the front office.

But, you should still give it a go while in school, and the way I'd do it is by challenging yourself to get outside of your comfort zone in social interactions. Just set an amount of time every week to be social and go to as many events/places in town as you can and try to understand what the people there are about, without judging. You can't just stick to the things you're into, because you will never know that there is a whole wide world out there, and that people of great character you would love to have in your life are present in pockets of all walks of life.

Also, if you just don't know how to interact, watch some pick-up artist seminars on Youtube. Try to avoid lectures by douchebags and find material by guys that seem like genuinely likable reformed geeks. They may stress getting laid as the ultimate goal, but what I learned from these videos also made me a better professional who's a keen observer of body language and way better at small talk.

Apr 19, 2015

haha

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Apr 19, 2015

Binge watch Californication and start acting like Hank Moody. Just go up to girls and start talking to them without giving a shit and keep in mind that wittiness is key. Also, cut the plato shit.

Apr 19, 2015

"Plato once said that beauty is a reflection of the soul"

Sounds like the beginning of an SAT essay.

Get out there and explore. You're bound to gel with someone.

Apr 19, 2015
SouthernOregonIntern:

Plato once said that beauty is a reflection of the soul. So I suppose I should be looking for a girlfriend who has similar interests.

Hahahaha way to shoehorn a non sequitur

Apr 19, 2015

I think you're probably limiting yourself too much in looking for other career-minded people.. Just talk to girls and find someone you like, don't be all too worried of whether or not the girl is business-focused.

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Apr 19, 2015

Plato also liked sex with youngs boys.

In fact, "Platonic love" originally referred to a situation where an older man has a relationship with a boy which appears to rest on a foundation of buggery, but in fact involves no buggery at all. More of the divine Eros, not so much of the more base, corporeal Eros.

Which is not to say Plato didn't bugger young boys. He only buggered some young boys.

Others he just told stories about slaves in caves, invisible men and that sort of stuff.

This was standard behaviour for the time. In classical times, the full saying was "When in Rome, do as the Romans. When in Greece, grab an ephebe and pack fudge."

In short, if you're quoting Plato, the ladies may think that you are a pederast.

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Apr 20, 2015

You should see if you can get laid a few times before you "shoehorn" this relationship.

How Tiger are your parents btw?

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Apr 20, 2015

You should always have two "elevator pitches".. one for employers and one for the girls. Practice on both and you'll be rich sleeping next to a model.. or two :)

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Apr 20, 2015

what kinda model: DCF or LBO?

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Apr 20, 2015
thebrofessor:

what kinda model: DCF or LBO?

Accounting model, on a mac

Jul 29, 2016

Haha bro you are a genius for this!

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Apr 21, 2015

The thing I love about high school chicks: the older I get, they stay the same age.

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken -Late great Col. Sanders

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Apr 21, 2015

To quote GSelevator: "if you want a friend, get a dog, if you want a friend with benefits, date a PR chick".

Apr 22, 2015

In my humble opinion, finding a girlfriend at this particular stage in your life may be quite difficult. College girls have diverse backgrounds, interests and characteristics. Look at it as a double-edged sword, you may find one that is a perfect fit while having to deal with others that are completely out of your "requirements". For your particular case, it might even come as a heavy liability if you are focused on college that much.

Regardless, if you wanna just FIND women for the thrill and experience, simply go for it. There is no secret formula.

Keep yourself clean, work out on your body, ALWAYS maintain a good posture (physically and spiritually, you gotta present that 'Alpha' aura) and treat the lady well; this last one is arguably the most important. By "treat well" I mean, be gentle, polite, show her that you are interested, be able to intrigue her, ask questions that can be both ice breakers and questions that make her stop and think. Select the girl that you're interested in, approach her gently, ask a few questions. If she's good in progressing with the conversation, go on with it. If she gives short answers with no interests on your side, say: "Alright, it was great meeting you! :)" and try again some other time. There is no shame in that. I particularly have had cases where women were enthusiastic to keep talking to me and other cases where they just gave me "yes/no" answers and a look that clearly stated "please, f*%$ off"

Take it easy, remember what happens, learn from your mistakes. Don't be afraid to try, don't be hesitant to approach. Remember that all of your friends today were once strangers, the next girl that you talk to could potentially be your wife. Life is that crazy. Don't waste time on it

Good luck!

"Suffer today and live the rest of your life as a champion!"

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Apr 22, 2015

"Gentle?" "Treat well?" "Polite?" Fuck that. It's college. Be alpha. Take a 2 story beer bong without flinching or a 6' bong hit without coughing, rip your shirt off and yell "who's slobbing this knob tonight bitches!?!?"

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Apr 23, 2015

Dingdon08,

Frankly that is a valuable strategy, but for the short-term period of fun only. I just don't see how he would be finding a girlfriend with that specific approach (I might be wrong, just saying from what I saw through experience).

And what I meant by being polite is: in case you encounter a girl outside of a party, being able to give off a first good impression is key! If you're able to seduce a girl sober, you will be able to do it while she is drunk, however the vice-versa might not be true in all cases.

"Suffer today and live the rest of your life as a champion!"

Apr 22, 2015

How to get a girlfriend in colllege: Meet some drunk whore at a party, go home with her and fuck. Then hit her up on the weekends to see what she's up to then you bang again. Then you guys start to hang out on weekday nights. Then you get lunch together in between class. Then you start to get dinner together... you see where I'm going with this?

Apr 22, 2015

Why are you going to a small rural school? It doesn't seem aligned with your personality nor career goals....perhaps consider a transfer.

Apr 22, 2015

Why do you "need" a girlfriend? What the hell does that even mean to you? Why are you basing the value of your life on whether or not you get to have sex exclusively with someone for a short period of time?

Astonished at how far some people get who think like this.

"When you stop striving for perfection, you might as well be dead."

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Apr 22, 2015

Yeah really the key is just to party with them and things will just happen, and forget Pua stuff it'll just get you over thinking everything ...talk to everybody and don't care

Apr 23, 2015

In any case, using the "yolo" approach might be great to give you confidence and experience for a start.

"Suffer today and live the rest of your life as a champion!"

Apr 23, 2015

"Having a girlfriend in college is like packing your lunch and bringing it to an all you can eat buffet." LOL

That comparison was something else. +1

As for the OP, I guess this settles it for you my friend, good luck on whatever choice you make.

"Suffer today and live the rest of your life as a champion!"

May 12, 2015

Tinder

May 12, 2015
968712351542A:

I'm a very career oriented college student, and spend most of my time studying in college to get into law school for corporate law. I'm nearly done with my first year of college looking to finish with a 4.00, have interned at a fortune 500 company, and have an offer for a fortune 50 internship this coming summer. What I don't have going for me are personal relationships.
Plato once said that beauty is a reflection of the soul. So I suppose I should be looking for a girlfriend who has similar interests. It's been difficult so far though, since I go to a small rural school with no professionally-minded people. What's worse is that the odds are in my favor at my school, with 60% females and 40% males and I haven't found someone with chemistry.
I'm not looking to shoehorn a relationship with anyone, but I suppose I'm asking where is a good place to look? Where would Wallstreet types look?

girlfriend

  1. Don't go to law school. No girl wants to eat that $200,000+ in debt for a career with dramatically declining opportunities.
  2. Don't quote Plato.
  3. Don't think you're "above your school." You're obviously not, since you go there.
  4. Don't think "where would Wall Street types look" for a girlfriend.

Instead...

  1. Go to parties
  2. Drink alcohol
  3. Have sex
  4. Stop being a complete tool
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Aug 2, 2016

Seeing some really substandard 'advice' here. Some of this 'advice' would probably get you something other than a girlfriend; something that you'll probably regret...

J.Wolfe

Aug 21, 2016

After I graduate with my MS and land a job, I think I might actually take the plunge and get on Christian Mingle (srs)

Sep 14, 2017

Get in good shape
Do interesting things
Don't have shit social skills.

Sep 15, 2017

Christ man. Sit back and have a beer. And then have another. And another. And keep having beers until you feel confident enough to talk to a girl.

"Work ethic, work ethic" - Vince Vaughn
Sep 15, 2017

You being on this site is the most telling reason lol

Sep 15, 2017

Go to Whole Foods in the daytime on a Saturday or Sunday .... always good talent

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Sep 16, 2017

Why are you posting on such an old thread? WHAT THE FU..

Sep 16, 2017

So you ended up agreeing with most of it, what is your issue exactly again?

"The HBS guys have MAD SWAGGER. They frequently wear their class jackets to boston bars, strutting and acting like they own the joint. They just ooze success, confidence, swagger, basically attributes of alpha males."

Sep 16, 2017

You seem to call a lot of Roissy's stuff douchebag in a way like it doesn't work. Being a douchebag in America is the point, girls love that shit there. If you want to play nice guy game, you need to gtfo of North America.

Sep 16, 2017
cibo:

You seem to call a lot of Roissy's stuff douchebag in a way like it doesn't work. Being a douchebag in America is the point, girls love that shit there. If you want to play nice guy game, you need to gtfo of North America.

Actually, as I said in the post, most of it does work. Also, you don't have to be a douchebag. With certain types of girls it's necessary, but in my experience, just being confident and making sure you get what you want out of a relationship works on the quality girls.

Sep 16, 2017

this.

Sorry OP but you are doing it wrong.

Sep 16, 2017

it's not about being a douchebag, look for common themes, not nouns. It's about being strong, confident and having a direction in life.If you're easily affected by stuff and dont know what you want, then how can you support them and their kids. Its biology 101.

Sep 16, 2017

I wonder how much of this shit would be necessary if the women in this country weren't so ridiculously overweight.

Sep 16, 2017
freeweezy123:

I wonder how much of this shit would be necessary if the women in this country weren't so ridiculously overweight.

Believe it or not, there are parts of the world with far more attractive women that actually like being women. Imagine that!

Sep 16, 2017
moneymogul:
freeweezy123:

I wonder how much of this shit would be necessary if the women in this country weren't so ridiculously overweight.

Believe it or not, there are parts of the world with far more attractive women that actually like being women. Imagine that!

Agreed.

However, I can't figure out a way to make money outside the US, so I guess it is what it is for now. I'm also not based in NYC, which I have heard is way better than most other places in the US.

Sep 16, 2017

living in amsterdam, not yet seen a woman over a US size 14, under 40, that didn't have an english/american accent. And not a single guy with a backbone. Fishing with dynamite.

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Sep 16, 2017
trazer985:

living in amsterdam, not yet seen a woman over a US size 14, under 40, that didn't have an english/american accent. And not a single guy with a backbone. Fishing with dynamite.

Sort of like New York City.

Sep 16, 2017
trazer985:

living in amsterdam, not yet seen a woman over a US size 14, under 40, that didn't have an english/american accent. And not a single guy with a backbone. Fishing with dynamite.

ill be there in 6-9months

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Sep 16, 2017
trazer985:

And not a single guy with a backbone.

This list itself is for a guy without a backbone. Needs to do all these things to prevent the girl from feeling any power or control such as not being to affectionate or apologizing etc. Stupid list, only people with weak self esteem need to do these things. Then again, that is most men/boys in today's world.

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Sep 16, 2017

In terms of getting girls, there is one rule that dominates all others, which I got from Woody Allen (believe it or not):

80% of success is showing up.

''You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you need to concentrate on.'' -- President George W. Bush
0.5 bb

Sep 16, 2017

there are only 4 things you need to do

1- Make her smile and laugh
2- Make her feel good about herself
3- Stimulate her intellectually
4- Stimulate her physically with both affection and sexually.

done. its not that hard or complicated but a lot of you make it out to be

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Sep 16, 2017
shorttheworld:

there are only 4 things you need to do

1- Make her smile and laugh
2- Make her feel good about herself
3- Stimulate her intellectually
4- Stimulate her physically with both affection and sexually.

done. its not that hard or complicated but a lot of you make it out to be

5- Challenge her

Other than that, I agree.

Sep 16, 2017

The golden ratio can be expanded even further to even more obsessive success if done properly and early enough in an exchange. Precursor, always have dank ass plans (even if you don't). Dinner and a movie? Sit down motel 6, try private dining reservations, uber cabs, bottle service and brunch at a place with a pool the next morning with equally chay bros running the same gambit on essentially the same girl. But now is not the time for plans, for you have to get the number before you can not use it. I have become really skillful at drinking (Bro tip, drink) and getting girls numbers who are way out of my league (try or you'll never know, FOMO). Day one, hour one, minute fifteen, hand girl iphone with blank new contact open, "Can you fix this for me?" You then verbally invite the girl to join you in partaking in these definitely extravagant, possibly true, plans occurring next week. Radio silence until one day out. Invite, accept, just have fun. FROM THERE ON OUT only text when you are doing something worth doing. I am talking like two texts a week, and even then very simple. Less is more. Blame lack of response on being busy, have a job... be busy. Combine this with two in the kitty and increasing free time with career advancement (wait it is the opposite?) and you should always have a DOD, dime on deck.

Sep 16, 2017
RepThyBananas:

The golden ratio can be expanded even further to even more obsessive success if done properly and early enough in an exchange. Precursor, always have dank ass plans (even if you don't). Dinner and a movie? Sit down motel 6, try private dining reservations, uber cabs, bottle service and brunch at a place with a pool the next morning with equally chay bros running the same gambit on essentially the same girl. But now is not the time for plans, for you have to get the number before you can not use it. I have become really skillful at drinking (Bro tip, drink) and getting girls numbers who are way out of my league (try or you'll never know, FOMO). Day one, hour one, minute fifteen, hand girl iphone with blank new contact open, "Can you fix this for me?" You then verbally invite the girl to join you in partaking in these definitely extravagant, possibly true, plans occurring next week. Radio silence until one day out. Invite, accept, just have fun. FROM THERE ON OUT only text when you are doing something worth doing. I am talking like two texts a week, and even then very simple. Less is more. Blame lack of response on being busy, have a job... be busy. Combine this with two in the kitty and increasing free time with career advancement (wait it is the opposite?) and you should always have a DOD, dime on deck.

I was about to ask "What the actual fuck?" Aaaaaaand then I read your signature... Carry on sir... Well played...

Dirk Dirkenson:

Shut up already. Your mindless, reflexive responses to any critical thought on this are tedious. You're also probably a woman, given the name and "xoxo" signoff, so maybe the lack of judgment is to be expected.

Sep 16, 2017
RepThyBananas:

The

I'm taking your sig, as I believe it also applies to me... g'day

Sep 16, 2017

@D M: I'm sorry I was such a bitch before... I just get really caught up in the moment. You were right... I will try my best to make it up to you!

xoxo

Dirk Dirkenson:

Shut up already. Your mindless, reflexive responses to any critical thought on this are tedious. You're also probably a woman, given the name and "xoxo" signoff, so maybe the lack of judgment is to be expected.

Sep 16, 2017
Louboutins and Leverage:

@D M: I'm sorry I was such a bitch before... I just get really caught up in the moment. You were right... I will try my best to make it up to you!

xoxo

But you guys haven't "talked it out" yet. How can you apologise? Did I miss an episode?

Sep 16, 2017

a wise traveler once told me the key to getting women is "be great, be desireless, be gone"

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Sep 16, 2017

Yes, I like these http://us.christianlouboutin.com/us_en/shop/women/.... This is what gets me in the mood.

Note to self: I am half way into the night and can't see the light.

Sep 16, 2017
Financier4Hire:

Yes, I like these http://us.christianlouboutin.com/us_en/shop/women/.... This is what gets me in the mood.

Note to self: I am half way into the night and can't see the light.

I would sex a girl wearing those. Twice.

Sep 16, 2017
Louboutins and Leverage:
holla_back:

(Never ask for dating advice from women. Seriously.)

Awwww... Cute!

xoxo

I hate that response.

"Mr. Perkins poses an extreme risk to the market when drunk."

Sep 16, 2017
DaisukiDaYo:
holla_back:
Louboutins and Leverage:
holla_back:

(Never ask for dating advice from women. Seriously.)

Awwww... Cute!

xoxo

Doing so inevitably leads to the usual "just be yourself" and "take her out to a fancy dinner" bullshit.

aka "How to Enter and Stay in the Friendzone"

I don't think I've ever experienced the friendzone. I'd love to have a great wingwoman.

"Mr. Perkins poses an extreme risk to the market when drunk."

Sep 16, 2017
rufiolove:
Louboutins and Leverage:

...

Remember this little bit from above? Thank you for making it so easy to illustrate my point and prove that my advice was solid. I mean it's like I had a crystal ball or something...

xoxo

Slow clap...

L&L that was some serious she devil trickery... I'm often reminded when I have a discussion with a woman that I am simply going to be wrong and that is okay... +1 for pure cleverness... I wouldn't want to go tit for tat with you...

She would win. Because she has two tits probably. And you have none probably.

I also have no idea what just happened here.

"Mr. Perkins poses an extreme risk to the market when drunk."

Sep 16, 2017

might be a long shot but does anyone have advice specifically related to pokemon (and in that vein, rlated to attracting similar female water-type pokemons of the same species/similar species?

thanks and let me know, rly need help w/ this since I've been single every reaching lvl 6 :/

"so i herd u liek mudkipz" - sum kid
"I'd watergun the **** outta that." - Kassad

Sep 16, 2017
mudkipz:

might be a long shot but does anyone have advice specifically related to pokemon (and in that vein, rlated to attracting similar female water-type pokemons of the same species/similar species?

thanks and let me know, rly need help w/ this since I've been single every reaching lvl 6 :/

>>2013
>>only dating other water pokemon

"Mr. Perkins poses an extreme risk to the market when drunk."

Sep 16, 2017

Wow dude, I was just about to make a thread like this, you beat me to it.

I don't read any of the weirdo stuff like Mystery Method or whatever but I did come across a guy named Paul Janka's work a few days ago and watched a few videos on him and read his manual, he has some good tips in there. Here is the link:
http://blog.juliaallison.com/Images/Paul%20Janka%2...
I don't consider myself a nerdy, awkward guy so I feel like his advice is more relevant to normal guys who just need a few reminders on how to brush up on your game

Sep 16, 2017
SAC:

Wow dude, I was just about to make a thread like this, you beat me to it.

I don't read any of the weirdo stuff like Mystery Method or whatever but I did come across a guy named Paul Janka's work a few days ago and watched a few videos on him and read his manual, he has some good tips in there. Here is the link:
http://blog.juliaallison.com/Images/Paul%20Janka%2...
I don't consider myself a nerdy, awkward guy so I feel like his advice is more relevant to normal guys who just need a few reminders on how to brush up on your game

I realize this thread is a bit old, but great e book.

''What I write here is what I've found to work and what I do in my own life. None of this material is hypothetical. I just had sex with my 100th women; I should have made a t-shirt for her. I keep a spreadsheet of these girls, just as a record, with an "X" if they let me bang them in the ass. I'm 30, and most of these women have been screwed since I moved to NYC 3 years ago - about 70 of them. That's more than 20 girls a year, and I had a girlfriend for a spell. Also, although there are some rough ones in there, most of the girls
are good-looking (7's or 8's) and several are 9's and 10's, including 3 super-hot models. And I don't have any money.''

A lot of his strategy is based on picking girls up in the middle of the day, which a banker could never do!

fdba Emory Blaine and BBA or otherwise trying to find the perfect pseudonym.

Sep 16, 2017

I have two buddies that have studied this stuff, and honestly, in less than 2 months, they have really improved their game (both bar/club and one of them has amazing stripped game).

Like you said - it really is just practice, and a numbers game to a certain extent. I have friends who I know that years of practice probably wouldn't do a dent, but thats mainly bc of their personality and just general nature. Can't be discouraged easily as well, since the rejections are kind of where you learn what works and stuff.

I have been going out with them and learning similar stuff from them, and it really is fun just trying all those ridiculous openers and transitions and stuff, but I'd be the first to admit that I'm not exactly that guy who can pull this stuff off regularly.

On the other hand, I had another friend from vandy who I met in NYC who had ridiculously good natural game (and he wasn't that great a looking dude).

Sep 16, 2017

Nuff said.

Sep 16, 2017

haha roofies, anyone seen that ep on 30 rock where the ex-bankers give tracey the roofies

Sep 16, 2017

hahaha sighm that episode is classic. "you can do anything you want to me..."

Sep 16, 2017

I read The Game by Neil Strauss, interesting book, but magic tricks? Seriously? Some of the stuff just goes too far.

However, I have a few friends who do sarge and their game is definitely strong; however, I don't know how much of that is PUA and how much is them, as they had good game before too.

Sep 16, 2017

reading financial alchemy by soros, thinking I'll get into a hedge fund.

..on a serious note, date rape is no laughing matter.

The world has changed. And we must change with it.

I'm making it up as I go along.

Sep 16, 2017

Thanks, Cornelius.

I know nobody meant any harm by this, but nice to hear the voice of reason.

Cornelius:

..on a serious note, date rape is no laughing matter.

The world has changed. And we must change with it.

Sep 16, 2017

You know what your problem is? You're putting the pussy on a pedestal.

Sep 16, 2017
MDR:

You know what your problem is? You're putting the pussy on a pedestal.

at least I'm not the only one quoting 40 yr old virgin on this site.

The world has changed. And we must change with it.

I'm making it up as I go along.

Sep 16, 2017
MDR:

You know what your problem is? You're putting the pussy on a pedestal.

x10000 That, it spoils the bitches.

Valor is of no service, chance rules all, and the bravest often fall by the hands of cowards. - Tacitus

Dr. Nick Riviera: Hey, don't worry. You don't have to make up stories here. Save that for court!

Sep 16, 2017

Classic movie. But seriously, if you're turning to books to tell you how to get laid, you are definitely putting the pussy on a pedestal. It isn't that hard to pick up women, but if you stand scared in the corner thinking of what some doucher told you to say you aren't going to get anywhere.

Sep 16, 2017

If I met someone 5 years ago who took PUA seriously, I'd think it was kind of cool that they have pretty much broken down manipulating women into dropping their panties into a science. Now I just think its fuckin pathetic.

Besides that, its fucking annoying. Every d-bag is trying this shit everywhere you go. I'm a guy and I'm getting fed up with it, I could imagine how girls must feel once they realize what these dick wads are upto.

I was out at a bar last weekend with a couple of girls. I must have been approached by 3 or 4 different guys trying to get into a conversation with me and parlay it into a convo with the grls I was with. Its fuckin annoying and transparent (from a guys perspective). This one dbag comes up and says "guess what song I just requested?" I knew what he was upto and I'm thinking to myself "seriously dude?" Anyway, the grls I was with were pretty hot and this guy looked kinda like a better looking, Jewish Artie Lang. I have to give it to him, he was pretty slick. So he skillfully brings the hottest of the 3 grls Im with into the convo, and skillfully pushes me out of the exchange. So here I am drinking and talking to these other 2 grls, and for a split second I think "there's no fucking way he has a shot with this girl... does he?" Then she makes eye contact with me, and gives me a really dirty look for walking away and leaving her there with him. I smile... read all the books you want and troll every PUA message board form here to Phuket, I'm still smashing at the end of the night.

Later I was to find out that the "guess what song I requested" was the best he had. After I left the exchange consisted of:

Artie Lang: "what kind of sweater do you think I'm wearing?"
Girl: "um-"
Artie Lang: (eagerly cutting into her 'um') "Its Ferragamo!"

Bottom line is... guys who get girls get them because they just dont give a fuck. You can read a book to teach you how to act like you just dont give a fuck, but obviously if you're fucking studying 3 hours a day on how to learn this shit... you care way tooooo much to ever naturally get pussy... and have any self-esteem.

Sep 16, 2017
Marcus_Halberstram:

Bottom line is... guys who get girls get them because they just dont give a fuck. You can read a book to teach you how to act like you just dont give a fuck, but obviously if you're fucking studying 3 hours a day on how to learn this shit... you care way tooooo much to ever naturally get pussy... and have any self-esteem.

Exactly.

What ever happened to just being someone worth knowing? With the exception of my wife (who I pursued), most of the women in my life have approached me. I think I'm a pretty average looking guy, certainly nothing to write home about.

It's all about how you carry yourself. Most of you act like you might never get laid again, and the broads can smell your desperation miles away. It doesn't matter how many books you read and how well you fake it. If you haven't done anything with your life, you're probably a pretty average loser and are relegated (for the most part) to back-alley tug jobs by aging Thai hookers.

When you've actually accomplished something in life besides sitting in a classroom, you will gain a sense of confidence that is like catnip to women. You can sit at the bar, sip your bourbon, and wait for them to come to you. Or not, it doesn't matter. Your nonchalance will make you irresistible.

But here's the hard part: you have to be someone worth knowing. If all you do with your life is follow a well-established path laid out by thousands of risk-averse pussies before you, then you won't be someone who women will sense on an innate level can provide both excitement and security.

Go have a TRUE near-death experience. Not some contrived bungee-jumping thrill that lasts 20 seconds. I'm talking about laying it out there. After you've conquered fear in the face of death, women won't be such a big deal. At that point, they'll flock to you.

Sep 16, 2017
Marcus_Halberstram:

If I met someone 5 years ago who took PUA seriously, I'd think it was kind of cool that they have pretty much broken down manipulating women into dropping their panties into a science. Now I just think its fuckin pathetic.

Sep 16, 2017

Getting introduced to friends-of-friends is the way to go

Sep 16, 2017

Fellas, a humble woman's perspective...

I've never read "The Game". Didn't have to. I knew all about it because I once worked with women who read "The Game". They read it because one girl had a BF who admitted to her he read "The Game" and it apparently 'changed his life'. Whatever. She was curious, bought the book. Was shocked. She shared her discovery with another female coworker. That female shared the knowledge with someone else... etc. Sigh.

Interestingly, that same office had a bunch of asian men who notoriously spoke of "The Game" with each other. So I always thought it was an asian guy thing.

Anyways, my two cents... "interested is interesting"... starting a conversation with someone is not rocket science. Simply become interested in what someone is saying/doing and the law of attraction will cooperate. Also, I agree with Jackofalltrades above, best way to meet quality people is through friends-of-friends etc.

Sep 16, 2017

Have any of you read Magic Bullets by Savoy? I'm going to shamelessly plug my review of the book... it's at magicbulletsreview.org, seriously the book changed my life. Let me know if any of you have read it - it's a lot different from the "magic trick" stuff you hear about. The Game is old news.

Sep 16, 2017

While we're on the subject, check out this movie if you haven't seen it:

The Tao of Steve

Donal Logue is hilarious as a fat fuck who hits a bong like a diesel train and has a way with the ladies. You just might learn something.

Sep 16, 2017

A close friend of mine did this and began to constantly take down 7 and 8s every time he went out. However, now this shit has been commercialized, chicks are well aware of what he is doing when he sends an insult and compliment their way. As such, he's jerking it a lot more than he used to.

Sep 16, 2017

I find it fascinating how far female preference has changed from what nature had intended it to be. From the old idea of men preferring young and good looking mates, and women preferring the leaders/most resourceful of their given tribe, we have arrived at poor sat tutors and shitty magicians with massive self esteem issues(aka mystery) mating with everything under the sun.

Sep 16, 2017

You're all amateurs. Real pros utilize the D.E.N.N.I.S. System.

Sep 16, 2017

Gotta be honest, that pick up artist crap is retarded.

"but, but, it works!"

No, being fun and interesting and not coming off as a creep works. Just generally having something to say works.

Sep 16, 2017
TheKing:

Gotta be honest, that pick up artist crap is retarded.

"but, but, it works!"

No, being fun and interesting and not coming off as a creep works. Just generally having something to say works.

agree with the above for sure. Most of the crap the SAT tutor in the above link says is just common sense, I'm sure it helps people that don't have a natural game due to being engineering students and what not. But the general point is pretty straight forward: get a number, take a girl out, don't act like a dumbass, possibly hook up. Don't know if you really need to read books or study it, just go out and interact with people, you end up seeing what works for you and what doesen't.

Sep 16, 2017

i like the lava lamps better

Sep 16, 2017

do I have to post a video... on this?

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

Sep 16, 2017

Another woman's perspective:

Based on my observations/friends: a guy who is not desperate and able to have a casual, smooth conversation does okay. Playing it cool or acting uninterested goes particularly well which is why it is the crux of any pickup guide let alone Mystery Method/PUA. When a guy acts cool or slightly uninterested/mixed signals, the woman sits there and wonders: "what's so great about him that he's walking away." Lure of the chase too, yada yada.
It's also a signal that the man is clearly not desperate/has standards/other options. (Kind of like a job interview....you walk in there with no other options and you really, really want it - it shows and it's a turn-off. You walk in there with a few other cards in your hand and a cool demeanor, it's attractive....not to mention that the other cards in your hand validates the fact that you are a great candidate because other people want you too.)

Personally, I think Mystery/PUA take the whole idea too far. There is a distinct difference between acting suave/cool and acting like a creepy asshole. Use one of those ridiculous lines and I'll not only decide that you're a creep but also wonder if you are a Mystery/PUA follower which would just magnify the repulsion.

Also: what you put out is what you get. The type of line that impresses a certain woman should tell you a lot about her. I.e. The one who is impressed by the exclamation that you have a Ferragamo sweater may probably be slightly more shallow/interested in brand-names and wealth.

On the other hand, if it's just about getting laid for a few nights, such opening lines might be better than the smart/funny/dork ones. I don't know.

Just my humble opinion.

Sep 16, 2017

My 2 cents: while the gimmicks/routines part of PU is pretty annoying, not to mention easily recognizable today vs. 5 years ago, there are some good concepts that can be picked up from some of this stuff - be confident, don't be needy, don't care about the outcome, etc. Also just manning up and actually APPROACHING girls and having a normal conversation no matter how nervous you may initially be. This stuff seems obvious in retrospect but you'd be surprised how many friends I have including some good-looking ones who are just too scared to approach and don't believe they can actually meet a girl in a bar - when they see some of this "PU" stuff, it blows their minds to see that this is possible if you just try.

Sep 16, 2017

I'm thinking a lot of it is the placebo effect. You tell a dude you have a surefire way to pick up girls, and you just have to follow the formula exactly.

Well, that guy goes out and starts to hit on girls. He's getting experience he otherwise wouldn't have gotten. And, as many have said, it is a numbers game.

That said, some of the pick up artist stuff is just stuff that most guys learn naturally; however, the folks buying these books probably haven't gone out much...For instance, look at the "neg"; it is an inconsequential insult/teasing. Most guys would just consider that part of flirting, and not give it a second thought. But, for the guys buying PUA stuff, it might help for it to be spelled out.

Sep 16, 2017

"Seeing this house and your fine sword and hearing how you're importing and exporting chinamen, let me guess, you must be fucking rich."
Kenny Powdersss

Sep 16, 2017

This guy must be a banker...

Sep 16, 2017
dacasale:

This guy must be a banker...

BSD for sure

Sep 16, 2017

Awesome, now I know all the secrets of how to seduce women on facebook. Very good insights.

Sep 16, 2017

HAHAHAHA too funny. "Lava lamp on, panties off, simple math brothers."

Sep 16, 2017

If he really had that much, he should've been less fat...

Sep 16, 2017

"bang bang bang bang" haha great material

Sep 16, 2017

he follows his own advice, credit to that.

Sep 16, 2017

His accent is so fucking annoying. I see the bulls hat, where would someone who sounds like that be from?

Sep 16, 2017
Old Grand-Dad:

His accent is so fucking annoying. I see the bulls hat, where would someone who sounds like that be from?

UBS

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"Seeing this house and your fine sword and hearing how you're importing and exporting chinamen, let me guess, you must be fucking rich."
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"Seeing this house and your fine sword and hearing how you're importing and exporting chinamen, let me guess, you must be fucking rich."
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