I have been told that I can't make it into the finance industry (HF, VC, PE, etc.) because of my height?

Hello everyone,

I am a freshman attending Dartmouth - majoring in economics. I am focusing my future on finance, whether it be working at a hedge fund or private equity. But I've read and have been told a few times that I won't be able to make it in the industry because of my height. I am 5'7. It's not tall but its not really that short either. Is this a misconception, or should I really just focus on something else worth my time and effort. This is really serious - I am not trying to troll anyone.

Thank you,

 

This comment had me cackling at my desk . . . also how did this thread make it to the front page?

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just so my reputation isn't varnished, i dont add every post to the frontpage, funny discussion though so i asked to have it bumped to the top

ps this post has almost 3k+ views (one of the top viewed of the week), lots of short guys sweating out there for a moment when they read the title

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aspiringchimp:

This. Short guys put on muscle quick. Get beefy and hit em hard.

No, short guys look like they put on muscle quick. People generally put muscle on at about the same rate but it looks like it goes faster on a short person because it's not spread out quite as much. There's a reason the record-holding strongmen and powerlifters are all fuckin' giants.

 

yes but the bulkier they get the shorter they look. how they don't see that while they flex in the gym mirror, I do not know. :)

"I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing. " -GG
 
277jba_pch:

i think more so you won't make it because you're dumb enough to ask this

This!! ... BTW.. I personally know a dude who is probably 5'1" (definitely not more than 5'2") who got into IB a few years ago post-MBA and is still going strong. He is among the top 5 jerks I have known in the past few years (no kidding) but the above point still stands...

 

How the fuck did you get into Dartmouth? You stare into a computer all day, you're not trying to sink sky hooks over DeMarcus Cousins...

The fool thinks himself to be a wise man, while the wise man thinks himself to be a fool.
 

Hey man, you're suffering from a crisis of confidence. Drop it or drop off Wall Street, point blank.

I'm 5'6" and work in Private Wealth Management on a team that manages over 500 mil. I've met with Jeff Bezos dad and held my own in an industry that feeds on it's own young. Height is only an issue as long as you allow it to be. If I seem abrasive here, it's because I've gone through the exact same thoughts repeatedly until I overcame them.

I started as a teller at Wells Fargo and always told myself even though I was better than half these hacks and knew more than most of these schlubs, my height would hold me back--and it did.

This was until I realized finance values intellectual capital above raw muscle. Once you realize this and truly internalize it, you'll self-actualize and propser. If anything, at least in my industry, a lack of height can be a strength if wielded properly.

See, tall muscular motherfuckers are inherently intimidating--great if you're a warrior, terrible if you're trying to charm (which we are). So play up the lack of height by using friendliness instead of a Napoleon complex and you'll excel.

Hope this helps.

 

at 6'5" i can be a menacing warrior or if i take that same frame and put it into a bespoke suit, perfectly groomed, great manners, great conversation and a big bright smile I can charm with the best of them. it's called projecting authority. it hasn't failed me yet. i bet you have to work a whole lot harder for the same attention. nut being judgmental but simply stating facts.

"I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing. " -GG
 

You know those little stands at Disneyland/carnivals that say "you must be this tall to ride"? They have those outside the conference rooms on superday. Helps them a lot in trimming down the candidates.

GS/MS tend to be higher (6'+), but I think 5' 7'' you should be fine with Deutsche/UBS. Networking helps and if you can show bankers your sense of humor, they'll be more lenient because funny midgets are awesome

 

I know a guy who's like 5'3 he broke in out of a non-target. If you are short and insecure you won't make it but if you're short and confident then you should be fine! It's all about confidence

 

@Aerbil99 Bro chill. No one cares about your height. Its a fuck all serious misconception you are having there. I know you are really serious about this but no one cares about your height. Just be smart, work smart and you can get anywhere and everywhere in the world of finance.

 

It is a fundamental rule of finance that one abides' by the 'three threes' phenomena.

If you do not have experience with, or fall out of the criteria outlined in the three three phenomena, you have 0% success at poppin' bottles, and/or, gettin' models.

3 Schools - Harvard, Yale, Princeton (duh) 3 Entry-Level IBs - Goldman Snacks, Morgan Stanley, Evercore (duh) 3 Entry-Level Consultant Firms - MBB (duh) 3 MBA Programs - Harvard, Wharton, Stanford (duh)

And finally the most important of the three threes is listed below. Unfortunately for you, my friend, you do not fit the mold.

Height of 6 foot 3 inches (or more) Played 3 sports in high school Family total liquid assets must exceed $3,000,000

 

Your ability to make it in the industry will depend primarily on your grades, school, networking ability, fit, and some luck. With that said, many studies have concluded that taller people tend to make more money, and are viewed as being more confident and successful. You can also look at the demographics on Wall Street and conclude that there has been some history of bias in hiring (race, gender, etc.).

This should not deter you though. My best friend is the VP at a top BB (he's 5'8") and several other friends are in positions ranging from associate to director at top BBs (heights ranging from 5'6" to 6'2"). You are still at the beginning of your career, and you are doing the right thing by asking questions. Most of the time, "the only stupid question is the question that is never asked." Leverage the communities on sites like WSO to get feedback from community members and learn how to break into the industry.

Parting Joke: If all else fails, go to a boutique in Boston. Tell them you're the Isaiah Thomas of finance. We can call you The King of the Quants (Game of Thrones reference).

Good luck!

 

Don’t ever let someone tell you that you can’t do something. Not even me. You got a dream, you gotta protect it. When people can’t do something themselves, they’re gonna tell you that you can’t do it. You want something, go get it. Period. - The Pursuit of Happyness

Read this. And remember this.

Monkey Never Sleeps.
 

I'm 5'3 and went from a non target to a top MM PE Fund with interviews at BB.

I don't want to hear anymore whining from you spoiled cry baby rich kids.

Keep it up. We will take everything you have.

Let me hear you say, this shit is bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
 

Well, apparently you test well. Now you have four years to find some common sense around campus somewhere. Stop worrying about shit that doesn't matter...If you're smart enough to get into a school like Dartmouth, you should be smart enough to not let someone get the best of you like this. Hit the books and get a social life...you're a freshman in college, so go drink beers and meet some girls...stop spending your time sweating about shit on WSO and what some neanderthal told you in class because he knew he'd get a rise out of you.

 

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