No legacy, no affirmative action, no athletes - just pure academic genius.
With the world indexing towards tech, MIT represents the future while Yale represents the past?
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>No affirmative action
You really think an engineering school would be half women if that were true?
Yea
The only type of affirmative action I support.
Oh no they didn't!!
I graduated from a program with a 70/30 male to female ratio. In this way, it was hell. There is something to be said for a 50/50 ratio beyond affirmative action.
Caltech is.
You might be right actually
Thanks, can you give me sb?
The best school for virgin nerds
Based and bottombuckethardo-pilled
Caltech is the best engineering school in the US. Nowhere near the "best school".
MS/reply to this if you have a small d1ck
Transfers to Rice, starts posting that it's the future alongside MIT (and over Stanford, Princeton, Harvard).
Gives me "I'm working at a top BB (think GS/MS/UBS)" vibes.
A friend chose USC over MIT so clearly it’s a semi-target at best
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Believable... if your friend wants to be a film director
Nope. Econ. While it’s a true story I’m of course joking about MIT being a semi target
USC Marshall is chad as fuck and per capita placement is almost Wharton level. Non USC is amazing too if you're a chad who is able fuck sorority sluts around LA's beaches on the regular, and not some pale virgin like MIT kids.
Financial aid for HYPMS is need based for all, meaning that if you get in to any of them from a low-income background you are automatically guaranteed a full ride. Academic/athletic achievements are not considered when awarding aid.
https://admission.princeton.edu/cost-aid/how-princetons-aid-program-wor…
https://admissions.yale.edu/affordability-details
https://sfs.mit.edu/undergraduate-students/
MIT certainly has affirmative action. Yale has world class STEM research too, particularly in the pure sciences and math (a slight notch less than MIT or Harvard, but comparable to Columbia, Princeton, Penn, etc.). Schools aren't monoliths.
Lol. If you think Princeton’s math is less competent than Yale’s than you have serious problem
Princeton math is 3rd tier in the US at best.
The only problem seems to be with your reading comprehension. Point to me where I said that.
Yale pure sciences is way above Harvard and MIT. Arguably the best in the US, just half a tier below the ivory towers of Cambridge and Imperial.
CalTech is probably the most meritocratic. They don't have affirmative action while MIT does. There are less than 20 Black undergrads in CalTech period. In comparison, there are over 300 Asians.
Campus prob smells like fish oil
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Better than smelling like bananas, watermelons, fried chicken and gunpowder.
This statistic does not prove your point! The culture of the school as well as the goals of the student is also a consideration. In addition, Caltech has approximately 1000 students total and is not is a college town. It and MIT are truly different schools.
MIT does affirmative action, and bends over backwards for athletes and donors. They were also involved in yesterday's financial aid fixing scandal. Caltech on the other hand…
Cal tech was implicated in the same scandal….
They actually do take legacies, it's just a tiny boost and something that differentiates you from an equal applicant. It's just not a separate pipeline. They also have affirmative action, as seen by their efforts to bring in more women and minorities. They also have separate recruiting pipeline for athletes, but it's not as aggressive as other schools and the standards of admissions remain.
I'm very biased toward Georgia Tech. D1 athletics (why would not having this be a "pro"), top academics, cheap cost (even out of state) as it's a public university. Only massive downside is the "ratio" which is 61%/39% even today (when I went it was lower, 70/30)
yikes
The women students had a saying: "The odds are good, but the goods are odd" a very sick burn
Cue bottombuckethardo bursting an artery at such a ludicrous suggestion and saying Oxbridge has no affirmative action, legacy, donors, etc and has been the preeminent institutions in the civilized world since before the fall of Rome.
Bro you are BBH. What is this lunacy.
Lol MIT definitely engages in affirmative action. My understanding of affirmative action is while it’s not a federal mandate, it acts as a legal buffer in the case of wrongful discrimination. Pretty much every large organization, non profit or profit, engages in abiding by affirmative action guidelines.
Are you fucking out of your mind? In the unlikely event this is not a troll post, I shall respond in all seriousness.
MIT (and other STEM schools such as California Institute of Technology, Stanford, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech and UC Berkeley) are adequate schools, undisputably excelling in their niche fields. Caltech for Aerospace Engineering, Stanford for Computer Science, Berkeley for Electrical Engineering and MIT for Nuclear Engineering.
Yet their respective alumni do not represent the trailblazers and leaders of civilization. That throne belongs to Oxbridge alone, with Yale and Wharton right behind them. They produce (and I quote), "coding bitch monkeys, human calculators, antisocial pale virgin keyboard chimpanzees and glorified welders and carpenters".
MIT is not even the best for engineering. That's Cambridge and Imperial, followed by Caltech. It's not even the best for engineering in its country. To call it "the best school" is an utterly shortsighted and demented statement.
Its graduates shall never step foot within the ivory towers reserved for those who matriculate from Oxford, Cambridge and Yale. Its graduates shall never reach the obscene "splendor" of business and finance like Wharton and LSE. Its graduates shall never explore the stars and set foot on foreign planets like Cambridge, Imperial and Caltech. Its graduates shall never achieve the raw power and influence of Oxford PPEists or Yale JDs.
MIT was founded in a backwater colony full of prisoners and prostitutes from Britain in 1851. Your father's father's father's father's father's was born before MIT even existed.
Oxford was teaching Latin, Greek and philosophy at the height of Pax Romana, when the known world was united under a banner of crimson and gold. Cambridge was founded a millennia ago hardly 20 leagues north of the jewel of civilization, London.
It is said that Oxbridge in their aggregate has contributed more to civilization than the Holy Roman Empire, Macedonia during the Hellenic Conquests and the Ottoman Empire combined, falling just short of the cultural dominance of the Roman Empire and British Empire.
All other institutions after Oxbridge are but a pale shadow and mimicry of the splendor of her halls of marble and gold, including even Yale and Wharton.
I came reading this
Where does uchicago fall in your analysis
Decent school I suppose, not even close to Yale/Wharton but close enough to Dartmouth, Ross, McIntire, Mendoza, Marshall, McDonough and the likes.
Your whole account is a troll post.
Why are you so obsessed with Ivory towers? They are referenced in almost every single one of your comments I have seen.
Regardless, Tsinghua, ETH Zurich and NTU all got no mentions here but are realistically miles ahead of Oxford and Cambridge in regards to research productivity even without name brand.
Lmao what the fuck is NTU? ETH Zurich is way below Oxbridge in rankings (which is basically research output). Tsinghua is in an emerging country. This would be like saying South African University or something is superior to Wharton because they discovered how to turn oil into diamonds.
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Leave if up to prestigiousindividual to think the Romans conquered the entire known world.
They did. The far east was a backwater whose greatest empires (Parthia) was godstomped by the legions of Rome. North Africa (only relevant part of Africa) was under Roman dominion. North Europe was a backwater tundra with nothing of value. The Americas were full of hunter gatherers picking berries and riding bisons. China and India did not even form their first dynasties at this point.
It's not that deep. Did you get rejected by MIT for undergrad?
This entire threat is disturbing for how many people are focusing on very minute differences between all top-notch academic institutions. OP, I expect Yale will be just fine in the next century, its not like they have a $40bn to beef out their STEM departments even further if they so choose...
I was half joking when I started this thread but in all seriousness the point I was trying to make is that I think the ethos of STEM and the associated institutions are starting to supersede more traditional institutions and notions of prestige as tech starts to grab a bigger and bigger chunk of the economy.
How’s their banking placement?
Atrocious. Same for placement into politics (basically nil) and other ivory towers like academia
Dude, you go to Darmouth or some shit, you don't know jack about MIT.
If you want banking from MIT, you can easily get it. Most people at MIT just have no interest in banking, especially if they can make more money in careers like quant trading or SWE at top unicorns, both of which pay higher, have better WLB, and actually have higher barriers of entry than IB
“No affirmative action” made me spit out my coffee. One of the stupidest girls I know from high school got in with mediocre grades and test scores who’s also a known liar and cheater. Just because she’s like 10% Hispanic or something. Such a joke
The few black kids who was in Eton with me (no idea how, probably some diamond/oil tycoon's bastard kid) all went to US schools with shit-tier academics because they couldn't even get into Warwick or KCL.
Meanwhile, the inferior US schools, especially the privates scooped them up cause "muh black diversitee".
exactly. this is why oxbridge will always be the feeder into the sacred Ivory Towers of politics, philosophy, etc, not some second-tier school that considers race in their admissions. what a joke, I am glad the British elite will never bend over for such bs
Dude give it up, you are not even funny.
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