mid bulge vs guggenheim

BB no question. Even UBS.

haha, 'mid-bulge'

If you want to get paid, I would probably go to Guggenheim. BB are under tremendous pressure now.

Echo the above. Guggenheim is actually a decent shop.

BB no question unless you are super into media or need to be in a boutique environment.

I don't know what comp is like at Guggenheim, but I doubt that it is any more than the BB's at the analyst level. Even if it was, an extra 5k-10k on your bonus isn't worth the (probably severe) drop-off in exit ops.

I've heard from more than one person that Guggenheim is an absolute sweatshop, and they've had multiple analysts quit because of it. I'd take the BB.

Congrats on both offers!

^^^ I can confirm the sweatshop atmosphere.

I knew someone who did his SA at Guggenheim and really liked it. He never really mentioned the sweatshop atmosphere though... Anyway, I would go with Guggenheim over the CS/Barcap/BAML. Guggenheim has been pushing growth aggressively and bringing in a lot of new people over the past few years so I would feel much more comfortable about job security there and getting paid bonuses, etc.

Guggenheim gets worked hard but I'm not sure if sweatshop is the right term for it. Culture is fantastic and extremely selective in their recruiting process.

I'd give up my BB gig for them in a minute.

Guggenheim. No contest.

I'd take any bulge bracket over Guggenheim. The exit opps are still better at the BB (this might change eventually, but not in the near future) ... and honestly, who cares what type of bonus you get? Much more important to take the better exit opps.

Bulge, although maybe not UBS

Dude... Bulge 4 Lyf

Literally all these questions ever boil-down to is group preference. I can't speak for you, but there are definitely multiple groups at each of the BBs you mentioned that I would turn down for far shittier banks than Guggenheim. The thing people don't talk about enough at BBs is that group selection can be a total crap-shoot, so while BBs are generally talked about in terms of their top groups, there's some pretty serious fucking downside risk of getting some obscure, undesirable group. Unless I had a pretty solid "in" at a top group I wanted at the BB I was at, PLUS a solid backup, such that my new expected value rises like crazy, I would take the sure thing of Guggenheim.

Almost three years here and still nobody gets that:

YOUR ENTRY LEVEL COMPENSATION DOESN'T MEAN SHIT AND SHOULD NOT MATTER TO YOU.

I'd take the BB for the name and opps down the line. Maybe Guggenheim pays more, but you gotta think long-term. $15k doesn't mean shit if two years from now you're looking to jump somewhere else and people aren't taking your calls.

this website has too many jokers with an agenda. when someone is recommending guggenheim partners over bulge bracket investment banks you can be damn sure that such a person works/worked at guggenheim and is incentivized to mislead others into thinking it would be a rational choice to choose guggenheim. alternatively, the person could work for a similar firm and is therefore still incentivized to promote a place like guggenheim in the hopes that the new blood will come to wall street with greater respect for middle market firms (and therefore more respect for said person). "if only i can convince a kid on WSO...."

way too much of that shit on this website. the unequivocal answer to the question is to choose CS/BarCap/BAML over guggenheim partners. end of thread.

BB no doubt. Experience, network, brand name, etc will all be better at the BB. Also, Guggenheim doesn't have the best deal flow yet.