What are two conflicting viewpoints that you hold?

One of mine is that I believe people should have the right to associate (example: do business with, date) with who they want, but I also believe that to discriminate against a person because of something they have very little to no control over, such as ethnicity, is wrong.

What are some of your conflicting viewpoints?

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I don't really see that as conflicting because there are extremes. Lets say you own the biggest, most efficient food store in a rural part of a state. You decide that you don't like, let's say, fat people. I don't really have a problem that you don't like fat people and don't want to sell them things, people will likely treat your business different because of your beliefs and that's the market doing its thing. There does become a problem when you stranglehold enough power that you maybe control the other local feeders of your store and also remove people you don't want from there. You are then almost forcing people to leave where they were born simply because you have enough unchecked power to choke out their resources on the basis of you just don't like them for "insert reason here."

TLDR: If you are a supplier of something that is considered anything close to an essential, the government needs to be able to step in and force you to sell to everyone. If its not a necessity, idc what you do with your discrimination there.

 

I want people to consume what makes them happy, but I secretly resent that popular culture by definition makes the most people happy. I have nothing against Starbucks, Cardi B, and reality TV, but I’m surprised and disappointed when my friends unironically consume those. I don’t like to think of people close to me belonging to the lowest common denominator. Not saying it’s right of me, but there you have it.

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Not sure if you truly mean conflicting viewpoints, or an unpopular opinion, or a paradox, but worth sharing Karl Popper’s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance</a" title="Popper paradox of tolerance wikipedia link">paradox of tolerance:

> The paradox states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant will eventually be seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Popper came to the seemingly paradoxical conclusion that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.

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Thanks for linking this, interesting read.

A bit disappointed they use the term 'paradox' though - it certainly isn't one, at least not in a strict logical sense.

 

I hate entitled people but pretty much just bulldoze my way through life. I get mad at old people for walking slow and shit like that. Hate on everyone and everything. Love humanity but hate humans.

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These aren't necessarily conflicting but they appear to be on the surface. I'm a federalist with a strong libertarian streak at the federal level. I think power should be devolved to states and cities as much as possible and that we should live and let live and allow for competing visions of society.

At the same time, if I ran my own city I would run it as a fascist dictatorship, lol. There wouldn't be one pothole, one crack in the sidewalk, or one broken window anywhere. There would be no litter at all. Thieves would have their hands cut off, rapists would be drawn and quartered. Panhandlers would be shipped to San Francisco or, ahem, disappeared. Drug pushers would be executed publicly. I'd ban cars in city-center and there would be roundabouts all over town and I'd have robust public transportation. Basically, my severe OCD would require me to run a fascist dictatorship with streets so clean that you could do surgery on the ground, where car traffic doesn't exist.

So yeah, if you value personal freedom, don't elect me mayor. If you value national peace and classicly liberal values then I'd make a good Senator (well, not me personally but my viewpoints).

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"real_Skankhunt42" These aren't necessarily conflicting but they appear to be on the surface. I'm a federalist with a strong libertarian streak at the federal level. I think power should be devolved to states and cities as much as possible and that we should live and let live and allow for competing visions of society.

At the same time, if I ran my own city I would run it as a fascist dictatorship, lol. There wouldn't be one pothole, one crack in the sidewalk, or one broken window anywhere. There would be no litter at all. Thieves would have their hands cut off, rapists would be drawn and quartered. Panhandlers would be shipped to San Francisco or, ahem, disappeared. Drug pushers would be executed publicly. I'd ban cars in city-center and there would be roundabouts all over town and I'd have robust public transportation. Basically, my severe OCD would require me to run a fascist dictatorship with streets so clean that you could do surgery on the ground, where car traffic doesn't exist.

So yeah, if you value personal freedom, don't elect me mayor. If you value national peace and classicly liberal values then I'd make a good Senator (well, not me personally but my viewpoints).

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"Nightman Cometh" If you ever end up running Boston, good luck with the potholes. You'd have your work cut out for you.

Oh man. I would execute so many people in an OCD attempt to maintain perfect street smoothness standards. Sigh. I would have made an amazing tyrannical absolute despot.

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I hate that much of our world has become extremely data-driven, and that people are being condensed down to a single number or a list - but I also love data science, and find it incredibly fascinating to play around with numbers.

Basically: I think it's cool that we are able to record all this new data, and extract features from things that we couldn't before - but I shudder when reading about countries like China, where they have a social ranking system which takes in said data, and then decided where you can travel, what you can buy, what you can watch - just based on those inputs.

Good science, bad applications.

 

Abortion. Find it morally wrong and the decision to have an abortion is really one that effects 2 people (3 but the man doesn’t count in the majority of circles). Yet i believe in the right that a woman has the right to decided.

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This for me stems from the paradoxical argument that the GOP states they hate "big government" telling them what to do while at the same time enjoying big government forcing a woman to bring a child to term. Those seem at odds with each other and also lends itself to the idea that if you allow the government to have the power to make you bring a child to term, what is to stop them from going to the other side of the coin and saying you CANNOT bring a child to term?

 

Everyone that drives slower than me is a idiot and everyone that drives faster than me is an asshole. Or when I race up through the end of the merge lane I'm doing it out of ruthless efficiency, but when someone does it to me they're a mouth breathing low-life making 30k a year in a 8 year financed car, unable to discern and apply the common decency of the zipper pattern.

 

Individuals should be free to engage in any sort of voluntary interaction based on terms defined by them.

The world would be a much better place if prostitution and drugs could be entirely prohibited.

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This is a pretty good take, I've always struggled with things like smoking and drinking that are so engrained in our society (that I very much enjoy) but also think about how much quality and quantity of life is lost bc these things exist in the first place.

I hate the idea of limiting personal freedom, but at some point the negatives outweigh the positives ( I sure as shit cant say I know where to draw that line). Drinking is especially precarious; drunk driving deaths/injuries and domestic violence, all things that aren't just self harm but direct assaults on others. I guess we cant undo the fact that these things exist but try and put the guardrails on them to mitigate the potential damage.

 

I believe that everyone should work hard and bootstrap to be successful. Be independent and also don't look for someone to give a handout. That hard work and determination are huge variables in successful outcomes.

But then I also think the world is so incredibly stacked in certain people's favor because it was built very exclusive to others, that obstacles and discrimination is inherently built into the world whether one person is directly discriminating or not.

I'm very much conflicted on how much success comes from one's own activities and what is just part of what is built into society. I think the left does too much to pander to the world stacked against me crowd and the right too much to the crowd that thinks they have some birth right.

 

Jesus Christ, my myers-briggs personality type is famous for this (Shout out to all the ENTPs).

Basically, I think we all hold tons of these contradictions and trying to hold them all in leads to mental gymnastics and makes us nutty. Old professor used to call them "mental cramps," and thought getting rid of them by working them out systemically was the only way to happiness. I will say I'm a lot more effective at life when I'm not debating myself in my head all the time.

Some that have been on my mind/unresolved lately:

  • Power- in the hands of stupid people, or select few superior humans that will naturally draw corruption
  • Environment- we're fucking over future generations but burning resources is Life's MO
  • God- wya? Why do all the psychedelics give us all the same trip yet I can't feel God sober
  • What do we do with all the Stupid Lazy people? I want to let them sit at the table, but also hate babysitting
  • Frugality v spend more make more. I shouldn't need nice things to be happy, yet they do make me happy. Also, I want to travel the goddamn world and not stay within 30mi of home.
  • Women- can't live with them, can't live without them
  • Love- sometimes I get giddy and think I can remain addicted to one woman my whole life, other times I can't feel any empathy and I get over things fast no matter how hard I try to hold on
 

Power: Power corrupts most people. People see the word corrupt and assume negative externalities or similar, but it could be that you just push the bounds. Say you know education should account for 2% of the budget, but you have the power to make it 4%. Is that corruption and power influencing? Yes.

Environment: I think the future generations thing is incredibly important. The top GDP countries WAYYYY overconsume, the life of burning resources is self-inflicted and unnecessary.

God: Religion to me has always just been a way for humans to cope with needing meaning. It is WAY easier to be told what to do and how to live than seek it our yourself.

Studid/Lazy: I'm not sure what to do here either. I actually do like Jordan Peterson's explanation that there is a significant portion of the population whose baseline IQ is too low to even be allowed to enter to military when they are scrambling for bodies.

Frugality/Spending: I think this comes from upbringing. I had nothing growing up so being able to afford a luxury apartment makes me feel good and why wouldn't it? Money absolutely brings happiness, it is just how much time do you have to spend to make it and is that tradeoff worth it?

Women: I don't share many traits with women yet I've had two long term relationships. One of the biggest thing men/women share though is love of sex so if it dies in the relationship, people need to realize it is red flags everywhere.

Love: I think you're confusing love and lust.

 
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you're not alone, apparently up to 70% of Italians could be lactose intolerant: https://milk.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000661 (source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11157352 & https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/73/2/421s/4737573)

as someone who's never been able to do dairy, I'm with you bro, it blows. but I've got this stoner type theory that maybe we were never meant to drink milk from another mammal in the first place. maybe we were just supposed to get calcium from broccoli & nuts and vitamin D from the sun, eggs, and fish. like you ever think about how fucked up that is? we're the only animal that I'm aware of that drinks milk from another species. moreover, we're the only mammal that drinks milk after infancy. like do we even NEED milk? probably not

as for my contradiction, among many, I'm pro drug legalization, but I can't make up my mind where you draw the line. like weed and psychedelics are easy to sign off on (low addiction, low toxicity), but it's an unsound argument if I say you shouldn't legalize something with toxicity or dependence issues when I very much like alcohol and don't see the need to outlaw that or tobacco.

 

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