+14 Dude this banker was an absolute tool in his response. He could have just ignored you but had to insert the book link and doctor remark at the end, that's just petty. It sounds like he snapped. Synergy_or_Syzygy
+14 What I think @REPESailor2020" is conveying is that having a convincing focus isn't a "nice to have," it is a "must have." Synergy_or_Syzygy
+14 Avid golf (and Tiger) fan. I realize most on this board are younger and weren't old enough to actually witness Tiger in his youth or prime. To give you perspective: rickle
+14 After graduating from undergrad at a Big 10 school, I landed a job with a large Chicago trading firm. I was ecstatic... But the starting pay as a trading asisstant was not exactly F you money. MXJ60606
+14 "BruhMoments" starting point out of undergrad (ideally wall street level compensation/prestige) Property Management is wh Pug
+14 "23mich" One reason may be that these MBA programs take a good deal of applicants from engineering programs and undergrad b-schools where pa danpo
+14 General rule of thumb is that your first money has to come from professional contacts that know you and have done deals with you for some time. That forms your initial capital base. That can be your old boss, people who di earthwalker7
+14 "Temujiin" I haven't worked on many industrial deals so I'm hoping you all can help me really understand the basics. Mike__G
+14 I've had a little bit of experience on both ends of the spectrum.. While in grad school, I've tutored SAT/ACT in NYC - on one hand I have paid clients whose parents pay 150-250/hr for my time (Group A). Portnoy's Complaint
+14 It's partially true. The below is my understanding. MintzBalls
+14 Seniors are jumping ship like crazy right now Not any more than the typical movement you will see at other (including BB) banks, maybe even less so. _PR
+14 I've dealt with this before - just an overzealous HR person. gryphus
+14 And who the hell are a bunch of noodle armed coders and HR nazis to determine what is "radical" and what is not? Let me guess... Pmc2ghy
+14 I’ll point out a few of the numerous logical fallacies here: 1) more to a career than the first job out of college 2) state schools are fucking huge and draw from all sorts of different socioeconomic backgrounds. Banking Sucks Guys
+14 I'll say something that I think really sucks but maybe isn't a pet peeve. Lying about what you know or can do with a pretty clear understanding that you're lying. TheDarkLordBigChungus
+14 Used to work in consulting with a buddy of mine who wasn't as good with "following rules". Questioned (legitimately) the work of an manager but wasn't too subtle about it. pr4mence
+14 I was once a Republican. I grew up in a military family, and many military families are Republican, so I grew up with it. brotherbear
+14 Good question. I don't think there is only one way to do things. Everything is situational. I think you frequently see IB professionals move to key finance roles at former clients. PE-CFO
+14 I apologize, I thought I answered this but it doesn't appear to have saved. PE-CFO
+14 "WolfofWSO" The rocks that returned from the moon are no different than rocks found on Earth. False. diverse_kanga
+14 Do you believe illegal immigrants should receive free healthcare? Sure, the day all citizens have healthcare, there is a budget surplus, and we are in little debt as a country. differentialequations12
+14 "fuzzy_stocks" "Wall Street loves to use confusing terms to make you think only they can do what they do. Jamoldo
+14 "Jdogg89" **Dartmouth alumni are also obsessed with Dartmouth and have a ton of influence all over finance. Jamoldo
+14 You should probably take a hiatus from worrying about your job and focus on solving that drinking problem. Elite_Bulge
+14 Over the past couple years it seems the supply-demand dynamic at the mid-tier acquisitions professional level has gotten out of whack. ThatGuyBalls
+14 Are you looking for work in PE still? I can see if we have a VC role for you to help you get back on your feet. No judgement whatsoever. smltmfwia0263
+14 "FCFE" "iBankedUp" Billion with a B
+14 As someone who voted for Trump, I will readily admit he has been a terrible President. That said, if the Democrats continue putting all their eggs into the identity politics basket he will surely win again. InVinoVeritas
+14 I think a broad way to see this is based on price elasticity. If you're in an industry where the product or service in price elastic then you may not do very well e.g. tourism or travel. The Pharma Guy
+14 It depends on where you want to go. If the team is an issue and you wouldn't mind lateraling to another bank (either in SF or home in NYC), it should be pretty straight forward. SeaHawks2287
+14 It's always rough ending relationships because you've essentially made a significant other an integral part of your life for a period of time. Anon1254
+14 Here are a few I don’t see mentioned too often on here, in no particular order: Blockhead
+14 Good Development Gig: peremium
+14 Brokers only have so much bandwidth as well. If we get a good off-market lead (ie No control of the deal) we may only call up 5-10 of our closest and trust clients about it. Bobias
+14 Since nobody else chimed in, I thought I can give at least a little insight. Overall, CG is a good bank, and they are getting better every year. Nightman Cometh
+14 Some groups need to close deals to keep the lights on, see this more often with syndicators (dumb money) than insitutional JV equity (smart money). yoruba123
+14 "WolfofWSO" One of the best prop traders I know was a total gamer through high school and college. GoldenCinderblock
+14 People who are happy aren't in constant conflict -- with their careers, or their roles in their relationships, or with the way they spend their time. Layne Staley
+14 Fun story: My late Uncle was injured in a motorcycle accident. Injured is an understatement, he was paralyzed in various parts of his body (one hand, part of his legs, etc). He was confined to a wheelchair. Pug
+14 OP - it sucks. Disjoint
+14 Overall, the standing of US EBs in London has been overhyped forever now. PJT, Moelis and Centerview have virtually no M&A deal flow (at least not justifying 10-15 Analyst class sizes). Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+14 You're having sex in your bed late into the night. Lots of panting, moaning and sweaty action. And just as you were about to climax, across the not-so-eerie silence at that specific moment, you hear it. My Name is Jeff
+14 OP you learned a good lesson early in life. That's just awesome. Seriously. Jamoldo
+14 Not worried about grand kids since I don't even know if I want kids of my own. Times are different. Say what you will, but women are more immersed in their careers than ever before in history. VP in IB - Gen
+14 Essentially there are lots of ways to make a great living. Will it be 500k/yr, 5M/yr, etc? That's almost exclusively a function of how good you are, timing, and luck (subset of timing). rickle
+14 You are absolutely right. It's sad to say, but I feel identified with your words. I read constantly WSO and I have become somehow obssesed with prestige, and this is not a good attitude; as you say, it is toxic. Prospect in IB-M&A
+14 Let me give some insights on the tennis world. For reference, I grew up in Europe, got a full ride to play college tennis D1 and was ranked top 100 in the country D1 out of 3,000+ players. Macronmania
+14 There is in a country where little piggies have no sense of self-control. I have always found diet and nutrition in the US interesting. There doesn't seem to be a mid-way point for the average person. The Pharma Guy
+14 As a >450 Wilks powerlifter who has also competed in classic physique, living in Manhattan with a dearth of PL-dedicated equipment absolutely blew two at a time. Thomas Pynchon
+14 What a joke this forum has become... when I was in UG 6 years ago all I heard of was this same BS... Analyst 2 in HF - EquityHedge
+14 Not sure I completely get the point of this post - wouldn't this mostly line up alongside the generally accepted WSO firm rankings? AKA your post basically disproves its own argument? jjwatt_469
+14 all of the above comments are reasons trump got elected as well. I think it's less of right wingers reflecting on why bernie is a possibility and more on america as a whole on why populism is on the rise. thebrofessor
+14 Cheetos Lip Balm Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎
+14 Start with asset allocation. I recommend a LDI strategy using either CPPI or dynamic asset allocation. Fill-or-kill
+14 Good post. It's about time someone brought this up. crusty bumhole
+14 Ways to fuck up: 1. talking about yourself too much 2. asking dumb questions about them or their firm that you could have found the answer online 3. wasting their time 4. StrapYourBoots
+14 Passing judgment on others for expressing dogshit opinions is staring ignorance in its face and calling it out for what it is. You and your content alike lack empathy and speak to a sheltered existence. CRE
+14 I guess my issue is why is it every time something with regards to expanding healthcare comes up, people always ask well how are we going to pay for it? BankerC159
+14 I don't want to get into a debate about political systems - it's pointless on this online forum. fixedincomekid
+14 Leverage boosts returns but actually reduces the profitability of the company purchased. An example using round, perhaps unrealistic numbers to illustrate: HighlyClevered
+14 Current analyst in O&G, but would consider myself as bearish on the industry. Oil has always been known as boom or bust, but in some ways I see the U.S. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+14 In China, it was pretty much stay inside and social distance, or face the potentially huge consequences. Honestly, that may have played a role in why they recovered quicker than people expected. Associate 2 in IB - Cov
+14 Sorry to hear about the internship, tough break. ChuckieSullivan
+14 First off, thanks for the kind words APAE -good to see you back in the forums. WallStreetOasis.com
+14 Obviously not. As a diversity recruit myself with a good GPA (above 3.7) and competitive internships, I can't exactly AVOID being diverse (I have to check a box every single time I apply). Prospect in IB - Cov
+14 My main source of deal flow is VCs and growth equity investors that want to turn an investment around/want to dump. We're also turnaround operators > investors so YMMV/take whatever I say with a grain of salt. m_1
+14 That’s an ignorant comment. I know many IBD MDs and PMs at top platforms and even single manager hedge fund owners who smoke. Weed is not evil and it really helps some people cope with the stress. Intern in HF - EquityHedge
+14 We can't really change China's behavior. We can only address our own shortcomings. earthwalker7
+14 I think there's a huge variance depending what sort of place you work at. earthwalker7
+14 Funny that you guys think banks won’t all have huge layoffs in 2021. Saying “no layoffs in ‘20” just kicked the can. Cantor pulled the trigger now, but there will be layoffs. Associate 1 in IB - Gen
+14 Explain a little more - what exactly did she say, regarding productivity? I'd like to better understand (maybe you would, too). She might not be making it clear what her expectations are. Shaynepunim
+14 Of course! RBC is a well respected lower middle market investment bank that specializes in ECM deals tossed over by Piper Sandler. Analyst 3+ in IB-M&A
+14 I think it largely depends on how quickly we recover from this crisis, and how the 'aftermath' so to speak is handled by Trump. My assorted thoughts below - in no particular order on this. Addinator
+14 Just checked this dude's post history, here's some gems -"CS is trending to be a tier under top tier better than baml and Citi due to recent performance" -"What are the top desks at CS?" Intern in IB - Cov
+14 Shorten it. Move it to a virtual program. Could be even unpaid. If the bank doesn't plan on hiring in short-medium term then just give low or even zero FT conversion. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+14 Here’s a piece of unsolicited advice, that I wish someone had given me right when I started. Prospect in IB-M&A
+14 "Intern in IB-M&A" sure if u like working at a lower-middle market bank pitching on $100 million deals with virtually no exit KOL A
+14 I think two key points also haven't been mentioned so far: recruiting capacity and risk aversion on the employer side. SReaper
+14 There are no soft girls. Girls give birth. Girls carry babies. Girls have difficult pregnancies. Girls have miscarriages. Girls nurse. You know. BREASTFEED. Shaynepunim
+14 Your loss. ChuckieSullivan
+14 "promoteseeker"Then why are Italy and Spain reopening as we speak? First of all, Italy and Spain took social distancing ser Developer in RE - Comm
+14 TLDR Extreme TLDR: devote the time, have a plan, and focus on creating value for yourself and the people you connect with creatively and over the long term EVADCFer
+14 Removed human_piranha82
+14 I've wondered through this entire mess how the gov't can order businesses closed when the U.S. I quit this site because of censorship
+14 I've been working from home for two months, and the positive impact on my health (mental and physical) has been astounding. Layne Staley
+14 I guess it depends on the team. I have 25+ live deals closed and I've worked past 3 AM like 5 times. Synergy_or_Syzygy
+14 We've discussed this to some extent on another thread but we're doing well. Good groups include Nat Res, Power & Utilities, Financial Sponsors, Consumer, Healthcare, LevFin, and Industrials (still a good group). Works at Barclays Capital
+14 a few people I know started a group to discuss exactly this and it's actually grown pretty meaningfully over the past few weeks. yologoose96
+14 We have all pulled all-nighters, live deal or not. Not sure that's the point. Not sure "fair" or "WFH" is the point, either. Shaynepunim
+14 The below are trump quotes. There is no argument that he's more "there" than Biden and Trump has made a career out of being the dumbest person in the room. Associate 2 in IB - Gen
+14 I feel like everyone is missing the point he is trying to make and instead has turned this into a Finance vs Tech thing. i hate audit
+14 Disclaimer - info may be a bit dated (as it's been a few years since I've had recruiting conversations with these groups) Associate 3 in PE - Growth
+14 "jman"I think it all comes down to how you think about risk and reward... I'm a touch late to this discussion but wanted to wei CompBanker
+14 "neink" Conservatives will rebuild society from the ashes. One more time. Alt-Ctr-Left
+14 "Isaiah_53_5" Elon Musk, ladies and gentlemen --- "But there is a requirement of 'evidence of exceptional ability.' I don't consider goi CRE
+14 short term solution: Trump orders that all of the officers involved in the murder of George Floyd are arrested and charged with murder (1st degree for the guy kneeling, 3rd degree for the others). Incoming Analyst in PE - Other
+14 It's already happened or, at least, is in the process of happening - take your pick as numbers get released as they are all on a lag. In fact - I'd argue GDP and Unemployment are irrelevant this time around. Addinator
+14 "Brownfield Capital" Furthermore, the only bankruptcy situation has been Hertz so far, and most firms are raising debt just fine with the go Intern in IB-M&A
+14 Providing your listed title as a second year analyst is indeed correct, I think you're getting ahead of yourself - I think you can give a little more time and energy to your current role before you start looking at trading YoungDumbFullOfRum
+14 Can speak to some knowledge on this. CB pay can vary widely depending if the CB sits with IB or commercial banking within the bank. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov