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The consensus, U.S. city among guys seems to be Los Angeles. Great weather, beaches, laid-back lifestyle, hot women. Among international cities, Hong Kong and Paris seem really fun if you're wealthy.

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  • Edmundo Braverman's picture

    +1 for Paris.

    I'm not single, but it's easy for single guys to slay quality talent here if you've got dough. Half the battle is just showing your face in the right clubs. By virtue of the fact that you're there, you're a good candidate to take home and screw.

    N.B.: Springtime in Paris is like nowhere else I've ever lived. The stars really come out, and there's thousands of them.

  • MCGILLIAN's picture

    Montreal F1 weekend

  • In reply to MCGILLIAN
    JohnnyCage's picture

    grew up in asia and trust me rich white attractive males are a commodity even in high school ya dig
    (this also applies to other locs but still)

  • In reply to MCGILLIAN
    Stringer Bell's picture

    MCGILLIAN:
    Montreal F1 weekend

    I'll never look at Canada the same after that weekend.

  • holymonkey's picture

    Depends on how "wealthy" you are.

    btw LA is a polluted cesspool.

    "We are lawyers! We sue people! Occasionally, we get aggressive and garnish wages, but WE DO NOT ABDUCT!" -Boston Legal-

  • 2007Grad's picture

    How does New Yawk compare to Paris and Montreal ?

  • MoneyKingdom's picture

    The chicks here in New York are vastly over-rated.

  • holymonkey's picture

    New York itself is vastly overrated.

    "We are lawyers! We sue people! Occasionally, we get aggressive and garnish wages, but WE DO NOT ABDUCT!" -Boston Legal-

  • 2007Grad's picture

    What about Buenos Aires ? how does it compare ?

  • In reply to MoneyKingdom
    Brady4MVP's picture

    MoneyKingdom:
    The chicks here in New York are vastly over-rated.

    i was in NYC this past weekend and saw very few attractive women who caught my eye.

  • Stringer Bell's picture

    I think with NYC you have to know were to look for the hottie's. Any hot chick that's moved to NYC, 9-10, want's to be in fashion. They're going to try to sleep w/ whatever the equivalent of a MD in the fashion world is. So likely were this tool is, so will all the Lauren Conrad look a likes.

  • rebelcross's picture

    I'm interested in learning more about this. It's a given that NYC women are the probably the closest thing to what the descendants of Hiroshima would have looked like if they had all mated with people in NYC. It's a given that you go to CA and FL for the hottest women in America, but as far as Canada is concerned, I have never heard of Montreal mentioned in this context.

    Can anyone give some perspective on this? I'm pretty surprised. Are we talking lots of money-hungry silicon here? Easy talent in every club? Hard to believe a cold city could be this good.

    I might have to make an excursion...

  • HerSerendipity's picture

    The equivalent of an MD in the fashion world is probably not into girls..

    That being said, there are definitely places you can find the beautiful people (men and women) aggregating in one place. And, while having money is great, you will probably need some social capital as well (which definitely does NOT come inherent with just being some BSD in finance) to check out those places.

  • In reply to rebelcross
    Brady4MVP's picture

    rebelcross:
    I'm interested in learning more about this. It's a given that NYC women are the probably the closest thing to what the descendants of Hiroshima would have looked like if they had all mated with people in NYC. It's a given that you go to CA and FL for the hottest women in America, but as far as Canada is concerned, I have never heard of Montreal mentioned in this context.

    Can anyone give some perspective on this? I'm pretty surprised. Are we talking lots of money-hungry silicon here? Easy talent in every club? Hard to believe a cold city could be this good.

    I might have to make an excursion...

    yeah, it's really surprising how bad the women in NYC are, given the city's size and overall importance.

    never been to montreal, but a good friend went to mcgill undergrad, and he said the girls in the city were unbelievable.

  • Mzz's picture

    Montreal, easily. Some of the chicks are down right filthy. Greatest part is that you don't even have to be wealthy, very accessible (a good number of them are just students).

    After having spent a lot of time in MTL, I really got accustomed to seeing 8s, 9s, 10s and the occasional 11. Really increased my standards -- so much so that everytime I left MTL, I'd realize how relatively terrible the quality was in other cities.

    I would have made MTL my permanent home if it werent for 1) the french and 2) the winters.

  • In reply to Mzz
    rebelcross's picture

    Mezz:
    Montreal, easily. Some of the chicks are down right filthy. Greatest part is that you don't even have to be wealthy, very accessible (a good number of them are just students).

    After having spent a lot of time in MTL, I really got accustomed to seeing 8s, 9s, 10s and the occasional 11. Really increased my standards -- so much so that everytime I left MTL, I'd realize how relatively terrible the quality was in other cities.

    I would have made MTL my permanent home if it werent for 1) the french and 2) the winters.

    Now let's say one did have some money to work with, are we talking anything like the kind of accessibility to the top talent that Asia will offer you? Or is it more like NYC where you really have to be a somebody among somebodies before you're able to make inroads with that level of female?

  • brotherbear's picture

    Paris, Prague, Budapest, Milan.

    I guess no one here has been to Milan. It's a fashion capital, and it's in Italy. The women are smoking hot.

    In the US, Miami and San Diego. Everything in LA is fake. It's a shit-HOLE. I was just in San Fran last week--not too impressed. I like Asians, and whilst you get a lot of Asians in San Fran, you get a lot of ugly Asians.

    And since we've left out some obvious hotspots, I feel obliged to point out the South. Whilst it's not a hotbed of culture or acceptance, it has some of the best clunge in the States. Charleston, South Carolina; Baton Rouge, LA; Austin, TX. FACT: there have been people sent to prison for masturbating in public whilst circling LSU's campus in Baton Rouge. Don't believe me? Go look for yourself.

    You need to look for cities with large populations of women that COULD be attractive (18-30) for young wealthy males. State schools have (on average) better-looking women than private schools. Large towns generally have more women than small towns (just based on size), but I think it comes down to percentages. Where are you going to find the highest incidence of 18-30 year old clunge? It has to be places like Austin or Baton Rouge. New York/LA/Chicago all have too high of a percentage of 'the great unwashed'--it detracts from the rest of the city. And for the super hot women in the city, there's too much competition (so the 7's and 8's feel like 12's, and have an attitude to match).

  • junkbondswap's picture

    My vote goes to Buenos Aires, Sao Paolo and Newark, NJ (talent capital of the world). I also hear good things about Barcelona. Depends on what your into.

    NY has too many tourists, terrible smells, dbag doormen, and the girls are overrated. Fashion chicks are miserable, poor and most have eating disorders

    LA is full of incredibly stupid people

    Miami is full of illegal immigrants and idiots who refuse acknowledge that this is America (speak English!)

    France is full of hairy and annoying women (never been but based on their imports that ive experienced here in America)

  • In reply to rebelcross
    Mzz's picture

    rebelcross:
    Mezz:
    Montreal, easily. Some of the chicks are down right filthy. Greatest part is that you don't even have to be wealthy, very accessible (a good number of them are just students).

    After having spent a lot of time in MTL, I really got accustomed to seeing 8s, 9s, 10s and the occasional 11. Really increased my standards -- so much so that everytime I left MTL, I'd realize how relatively terrible the quality was in other cities.

    I would have made MTL my permanent home if it werent for 1) the french and 2) the winters.

    Now let's say one did have some money to work with, are we talking anything like the kind of accessibility to the top talent that Asia will offer you? Or is it more like NYC where you really have to be a somebody among somebodies before you're able to make inroads with that level of female?


    Its not Thailand by any means. But its not NYC either. A nice mix of game and a little money will get you pretty much almost anything you want. Last time I was there, I saw ONE GUY pick up THREE (hot) chicks. He stuffed them all into his 2 door Acura and drove off. And this wasn't even at a club.

  • In reply to brotherbear
    Mzz's picture

    brotherbear:
    I guess no one here has been to Milan. It's a fashion capital, and it's in Italy. The women are smoking hot.

    I'll agree with you on that one. When I was there a few summers ago, every 3rd girl I walked by was supermodel material. Only problem is that almost all of them can't stand being hit on = low accessibility.

  • In reply to Mzz
    rebelcross's picture

    Mezz:
    rebelcross:
    Mezz:
    Montreal, easily. Some of the chicks are down right filthy. Greatest part is that you don't even have to be wealthy, very accessible (a good number of them are just students).

    After having spent a lot of time in MTL, I really got accustomed to seeing 8s, 9s, 10s and the occasional 11. Really increased my standards -- so much so that everytime I left MTL, I'd realize how relatively terrible the quality was in other cities.

    I would have made MTL my permanent home if it werent for 1) the french and 2) the winters.

    Now let's say one did have some money to work with, are we talking anything like the kind of accessibility to the top talent that Asia will offer you? Or is it more like NYC where you really have to be a somebody among somebodies before you're able to make inroads with that level of female?


    Its not Thailand by any means. But its not NYC either. A nice mix of game and a little money will get you pretty much almost anything you want. Last time I was there, I saw ONE GUY pick up THREE (hot) chicks. He stuffed them all into his 2 door Acura and drove off. And this wasn't even at a club.

    Holy fuck...why is this not common knowledge? Fuck Cancun...next Spring Break WSO trip to Montreal

  • In reply to junkbondswap
    GoodBread's picture

    junkbondswap:
    France is full of hairy and annoying women (never been but based on their imports that ive experienced here in America)

    There's a definite selection bias there. The majority of imports are not out of the same mold as typical Paris talent.

  • PinkyAndTheBrain's picture

    As a girl, I'm just curious what you consider a 10 versus a 7. I didn't realize we all have classifications.

  • In reply to PinkyAndTheBrain
    rebelcross's picture

    PinkyAndTheBrain:
    As a girl, I'm just curious what you consider a 10 versus a 7. I didn't realize we all have classifications.

    Oh boy...not this again...

    This is going to turn into a 110+ comment topic, with very strong feelings all around.

  • PinkyAndTheBrain's picture

    no I'm actually not trying to start trouble at all. Just curious to see how I stack up.

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  • 2007Grad's picture

    The fact that you're reluctant to post a pic tells me you're a 4 or 5.

  • In reply to PinkyAndTheBrain
    JohnnyCage's picture

    PinkyAndTheBrain:
    As a girl, I'm just curious what you consider a 10 versus a 7. I didn't realize we all have classifications.

    If this isn't a troll post you're an idiot.

  • In reply to PinkyAndTheBrain
    youngblood's picture

    PinkyAndTheBrain:
    ok this is ridiculous forget it. yeah like i'm really gonna do that

    You basically just asked dudes on the internet to detail "how you stack up." How the hell else is anyone going to help ease your insecurities without a picture, huh Flo?

  • PinkyAndTheBrain's picture

    ok, would you post a picture of yourself on the internet on some message board? seriously this is stupid. I was just looking for examples of what types of girls you would rate a 10 versus a 7.

  • Gimmemoney's picture

    Post a pic of someone who you think your comparable to, and don't fcuking lie!

  • In reply to PinkyAndTheBrain
    Stringer Bell's picture

    PinkyAndTheBrain:
    no I'm actually not trying to start trouble at all. Just curious to see how I stack up.

    Pinky, you should post a picture of one of your friends that all your other friends say your prettier than and we'll tack on an extra .35 out of good faith. Some of the comments might sting but they'll be completely honest.

    As far as a rating scale, in my book, it goes like this:

    10: I get so hacked we guys say "oh blah blah' s an eleven," no, your wrong. A ten is a ten, which is as follows. Flawless body, mesmerizingly attractive, ages 18-28, + 5' 8, etc. Perfect in almost every way. See Marisa Miller, most Victoria Models, SI swimsuit models, super models minus the Kate Moss heroin infused wannabes. 10's are rare mix of perfect genetics, unflinching dedication to personal appearance, & their attractiveness almost has a spiritual aspect to it. If you see one in the wild, count yourself lucky.

    9: A 9 is still a sight to behold, have most of the same physical traits as 10's, minus the angelic/mesmerizing aura that a 10 will have. Typically any worthwhile bar & or club in a big city will have 1-3 on any given party night. I would consider Jessica Alba, Megan Fox (high 9), that blonde chick on Chuck.

    8: Still a great rank to have, and most hot girls/girls you'd look 2x at on a day to day basis are somewhere in the low 8's. Figures start to become more realistic , but still nice to look at. Jennifer Aniston, Jessica Beil,

    7: Below 7.5 you're pushing it. Most guys wouldn't really kill themselves to get with this girl but pressed a little would say she's attractive. 7.5's can bump up to an 8 temporarily by doing this and that. Below 7.5 is "cute". Typically 3-5 beers will increase your draft status.

    6: 6's are typically what you'd call homely, and if the personality blows/are bitchy they can skip down into unattractive (5 & below). Most 6's can hit the gym all they want but typically are on the wrong end of some genetics. Think of your best "girl" friend in HS, most girls at Ivy's, girl lacrosse players, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Lady GaGa (very low 6), etc. At least 6-8 brews.

    5 & below: Unattractive is about were you can max out at. Black out drunk required.

    Is it misogynistic? Yes, but you asked.

  • Banker88's picture

    Haha silver banana to you westfald. Though you really wouldn't bang Lady Gaga or Maggie Gyllenhaal without at least 6 beers? I think they are 7s. Other than that you're spot on.

  • Gimmemoney's picture

    If you wouldn't bang Lady Gaga your gay my friend. I would make Lady Gaga bleed!

  • h.e.pennypacker's picture

    Here's the only rating system we (men) need:

    0 - Kill it with fire
    1 - Fuck but don't tell anyone
    2 - Fuck and tell my friends
    3 - Poke holes in condom

  • Ari_Gold's picture

    Maggie Gyllenhaal by the power of her face almost ruined my enjoyment of the Dark Knight. I literally put my hand to cover her face when she was on screen. I don't why, but her face is just nasty and look soooo bitchy without having any of the goods.

    Westfald description is quite good. WFT is all this about Montreal?! I so regret not going that one time back in college. I should skipped the beach and went there, if what people are saying is true. I concur with southern Spain, Prague (most of them seem immigrated), and Thailand is straight up dirty. Nice beaches, but it crawls with more sleaze than even I can stand and a viral disease awaiting to happen.

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  • In reply to brotherbear
    riskorangutan's picture

    brotherbear:
    Paris, Prague, Budapest, Milan.

    I guess no one here has been to Milan. It's a fashion capital, and it's in Italy. The women are smoking hot.

    In the US, Miami and San Diego. Everything in LA is fake. It's a shit-HOLE. I was just in San Fran last week--not too impressed. I like Asians, and whilst you get a lot of Asians in San Fran, you get a lot of ugly Asians.

    And since we've left out some obvious hotspots, I feel obliged to point out the South. Whilst it's not a hotbed of culture or acceptance, it has some of the best clunge in the States. Charleston, South Carolina; Baton Rouge, LA; Austin, TX. FACT: there have been people sent to prison for masturbating in public whilst circling LSU's campus in Baton Rouge. Don't believe me? Go look for yourself.

    You need to look for cities with large populations of women that COULD be attractive (18-30) for young wealthy males. State schools have (on average) better-looking women than private schools. Large towns generally have more women than small towns (just based on size), but I think it comes down to percentages. Where are you going to find the highest incidence of 18-30 year old clunge? It has to be places like Austin or Baton Rouge. New York/LA/Chicago all have too high of a percentage of 'the great unwashed'--it detracts from the rest of the city. And for the super hot women in the city, there's too much competition (so the 7's and 8's feel like 12's, and have an attitude to match).

    if you are thinking just girls, yeah, milan has very attractive girls but otherwise milan

  • surferdude867's picture

    Toronto > Montreal. I can't stand the French accent.

    It's also the most multi-cultural so you have cool mixes that you'll never see anywhere else.

    Thai-Russian, Japanese-Caribbean, Italian-Indian...Canadian girls are the best in the world.

  • milkman84's picture

    Toronto is boring as fuck. Strip joints suck. Bars close an hour earlier. Cool mixes? If I want interesting breeds, I'll get a dog.

  • fhurricane's picture

    I believe that everyone rates on 2 scales of hotness, local hotness and global hotness.

    The following example illustrates my point. There may be an attractive girl you see every day who you deem, lets say, an 8. You see her in real life. She is tangible. Compared to other girls around her, she is above average. However, you turn on the tv, internet, whatever, and see absolutely gorgeous girls. Upon seeing them, if you rerate the girl you saw beforehand, the score you assign to her would probably be lower now comparing her to these girls. The reason for this disparity is because (I believe) you only consciously rate against girls who you see, or have seen in the past, in real life.

    Think about it. How many times have you or your friends said "That chick is a 10!" Think about that girl, and compare her to a girl like Miranda Kerr, etc. Chances are the girl you met in real life, who you or your friends said was a 10, does not approach the girl you are comparing her to, indicating the use of 2 separate scales.

    Local hotness is the scale upon which you rate girls that you see every day IN REAL LIFE.
    Global hotness is the scale on which you rate all women you see, on tv, the internet, whatever.

    Just look at Westfald. He gives Jessica Biel and Aniston 8's. This is his global scale, and if he put every girl he met in real life on this scale, chances are not many would break 6.5 (unless he is a Pick up master). He is probably not rating all the girls he meets as below 6.5, so that would mean he is judging on a different scale, his local scale. Westfald, please correct me if I am wrong, and you do have these extremely strict standards for women you meet in real life.

    The scales may vary wildly in relation to each other. For example, if you are a fashion photographer, you are in the midst of beautiful women every day. Therefore, your local and global scales would probably be identical. However, if you have been living in jail for the past 10 years, that 5 may start to look like a 10, indicating a large disparity between the scales.

  • moneyneversleeps2's picture

    How does Paris make the list for wealthy men when 50% of their income goes to taxes? I am surprised that LA would make the list too. Women in CA get soo much work done in their 20s that by the time they hit 40 they start to look and feel like a football.

  • fmonkey's picture

    guys guys guys. boston all the way. so many college girls, we can relive the years bumpin frosh in the basement of a frat house.

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