Comprehensive List of Target Schools

I think Ivy's, Stanford, Duke, NYU, UVA, UMichigan are all safe bets for recruiting opportunities (not sure about MIT). UChicago and Northwestern are also decent. Rest depend on the firm

Top target: Harvard, Upenn, Yale, Princeton, Cornell, MIT, Duke, Stanford, Darthmouth, Brown

Second target: UChicago, NYU, Michigan, Northwestern, Williams, and so on

caveat:Tried to put this roughly in order and include the huge ones but i'm not in the mood to give an actual 'comprehensive list'...

Basically, its a straight prestige ranking with a few differentiating factors. Ex: Upenn is higher than the rest of the iveys except Harvard only due to factoring in Wharton. Stanford isn't as high due to being on the West Coast and the fact that students there are not quite as IB-hyped as east-coasters.

Go to the most prestigious school you can if you're determined to go into ib.

P.S. Not to attack you personally but I find it sad that someone who hasn't gotten into college yet is already determined to be a banker. You should at least get into college before you're corrupted by greed and all that.

Maybe banking is becoming like medicine or law now. Pretty soon 8 year olds will all want to be bankers.

you have things a bit mixed up (at least by this year's placements).
Top: Wharton, Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Cornell, Duke, NYU, Stanford, Columbia, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth
then there are the rest. its mainly dependent on the networks at the individual banks but these are the top ones, roughly in order though not exact.

they basically get cut first when there's a downturn. plus, you're expected to bullshit 'internships' at banks during the year to be competitive. basically, getting coffee. with every single person there gunning for investment banking, 'placement' is fuzzy

also, brown? uh. i think some places skip them altogether (at least we did)

Agreed. In the end, the reason why schools become "target" school is because they have strong alum representation and great yields from offers to acceptances. One of the non-BB non-U.S. banks recently dropped my alma mater (as classified above a "supreme" target) from their 'target' school list simply because they were only able to convert 1 out of 7 or 8 offers into accepts.

although i'm sure it differs from bank to bank, mine even "tiers" out the different levels of target-ness. So we have "core", "targeted", "reference", "non-targets" and "special" (study abroads and SEO is lumped here). Certain schools this year fell from "core" to "targeted", whatever that means. Basically, I think it's like the recruiting efforts are just halved but they definitely still interview. They just might not do on-campus presentations often/workshops/etc.

How much of a target is Northwestern?

I've noticed that its included on some lists but not others.

The NYU comment is simply not true. every bank goes there, and students get placed in everything from GS to Lazard (people I know). It is very much so a "target" school.

I am not an alumni and have no bias.

Though I will agree about the need for externships during the year. One of the benefits (or drawbacks) about going to school in the city. Some people will do them, so o remain competitive you should to. It is def. not required though.

If you go to Northwestern, have a good GPA, add some decent ECs and internships, you'll have no problem finding a job at a bank. Maybe not BB or maybe you have to work in Chicago instead of NYC, but its a quality school nonetheless. Plus they have Big 10 sports and it's 5x more fun than UChicago, if you are thinking of going to one of those schools. UChicago is a dead zone for fun and good looking women.

All the BB's recruit at NU, so id say its defnitely a target. But there are significantly less NU grads getting offers for BB IB in NYC. For Chicago banks, NU/UChicago are golden... despite UChi being more highly ranked these days, I think they are equally well-regarded in terms of IB recruitment across the board. Undoubtedly, NU people are more laid back and easier to get along with than your average UChi weirdo.

Fact: NYU has the 4th most interns at GS firmwide out of any school. So you basically are a fucking idiot

Wow... that escalated quickly...

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Stern seems to get a lot of hate on this board. Not sure why. I'll be going to NYU in the Fall, but I just transferred in so I really don't know why it has a less than great reputation. Any comments why?

Brown is NOT a top target, it is the lowest of the Ivys. Arguably it should not even be an Ivy.

Stern is not that overrated and during a downturn it is not the first one cut. It is very seldom do companies cut schools for recruiting.

What type of Bear is best?

To include Cornell but not UofM-Ross is a crime. You're basically saying BSC didn't have that bad of a year.

Seriously though - all the Ivy Leagues, Stanford, Northwestern/UChicago are great.

For state schools once you get past UM-Ross, UVA, and Cal-Berk, the drop off is significant.

The Ivy League is an athletic conference-nothing less, nothing more.

Still pissed about your rejection?

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This may sound like an obvious question. But are these target schools for undergrad or MBA?
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undergrad. all target undergrads have "target" (M7) MBAs as well

i think you misunderstood... im pretty sure tbroker didnt get rejected anywhere :-) and he's right about brown/cornell being "lesser" ivies, that's common knowledge.

M7 - I've seen this term thrown around; what does it mean?

Brown is not good for IB, unless maybe lots of kids turn offers down to go to San Fran and hippy out for a while

Thanks pedigreed monkey for answering my question.

What is the general path that someone would follow in order to get into IB? At what point in college would they try intern, what is the position that people try gun for to start off in the industry, do most people go from completing their undergrad right into starting their MBA etc.?
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How do you know where the fuck this dude did or didn't get rejected from?! Quit the dick riding for five minutes and realize how stupid you sound.

I don't give a shit about where you rank these schools, but when you say some dumb shit like "they shouldn't even be considered Ivy league," you're going to be called out on it.

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Get into the best school you can thats closest to New York and I think you will be fine

Just my two sense, all of the ivies are great, I don't know about all the criticizing of 'lesser ivies' as any of them will give you great chances at IB/consulting etc...

Some of them might be less recruited, say Brown, but probably because less people from the school intend to do ib, and from what I know, I'd say it is even easier to get into IB from a school like that since you're not competing with as many from your own school and the recruiters will still think well of you (especially with the Ivy pedigree, if they have one of their own)

So please don't criticize Cornell or Brown because they are school with sub 20% acceptance nowadays I believe... hell eh.

What about Illinois? Is that no longer a semi-target college?

Any top 15 school is good

Ivies
Stanford
Duke
MIT
NU
Chicago (ugh...)
West Point (after military service)
Other such schools

What about the Kelley school of business at IU