rank the banks

wouldnt want to work at any

bumppppppppp

this is stupid. Its has been discussed and debated over and over.

but not with the current situation. you can't seriously think the ratings are still the same now that merrill, bear and lehman are gone.

im a junior and i still want to pursue IB, but i think ranking banks at this point is retarded. the glory days really do seem to be over for now, the only question is for how long (permanently?). if youre like me and really want to do IB for the experience you seriously cannot be picky. rank the independent investment banks? they all suck. that only leaves the conglomerates with commercial banking divisions.

dont worry about rankings right now, i dont think anyone can determine that because so much is up in the air.

in terms of stability, i would say

JPM
BoA
Barcap
Citi
GS
MS

acquisitions like the ones by boa and barcap mean messy integrations, at least in the short term, wouldn't want to be anywhere near either of these. For boa specifically, putting two mediocre banks together doesn't equal a great one.

who cares about rankings right not - quit posting these nonsense topics.

right now people are losing their jobs and all the wealth tied up in stock options at their respective firms, the market is in chaos and your worried about the rankings of investment banks? seriously?

You forgot the european banks which would easily displace those up there and GS, MS should be replaced with Wells Fargo and Wachovia respectively.

You seem to have forgotten that JPM took on Bear recently... In fact, aren't you in JPM commercial banking because of this integration?

Every one of those banks is going to be going through consolidation in the near future, so if you don't want to be near messy integrations, don't join banking right now...

I dread the day in the near future when Goldman or Morgan merges with some second-tier, but, alas, c'est la vie.

How do the European banks fare?

Are Goldman and Morgan Stanley in such a dire position relative to say, Wachovia, that they would be the acquiree and not the acquirer? It'd be a real shame to lose such iconic and well known brand names.

Precisely why you would want to stay away...you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed are you?

...is still a tool...