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Ah, one of my favorite tasks
by dosk17(just kidding)
Spreading comps in 6 easy steps:
1) Look up the company's filings (10-K and 10-Q) on Capital IQ.
2) Pull equity research on the company from whatever sources you use.
3) Enter the company's cash, debt, share count (and options table if you want to be precise to get the diluted count) from the latest filing.
4) Enter the company's trailing-twelve-months revenue and EBITDA (and probably more metrics depending on industry but let's just keep this general for now) by:
a) Entering revenue from latest 10-Q and 10-K and then subtracting revenue from 10-Q a year ago.
b) Entering EBITDA from latest 10-Q and 10-K and then subtracting EBITDA from 10-Q a year ago. To find EBITDA, start with Operating Income and add back the Depreciation & Amortization on the cash flow statement as well as any one-time charges... comb the footnotes of the filing for one-time and unusual charges like lawsuits, settlements, etc. and add them back. This is the fun part of the process.
5) Enter projections from equity research analyst... usually two years forward (so 2008 and 2009). Look up the revenue and EBITDA from report and enter them.
6) Make sure everything ties out and get your multiples... in this case, TEV/R and TEV/EBITDA.
Repeat the above for each company in the comp set... usually 5-10, but can be more depending on how sadistic the senior bankers are.
Have fun
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A little unclear from Dosk's
by AltESVA little unclear from Dosk's post, but in case you aren't aware: "comps" are comparable companies. When you are trying to value a company, one way to do it is to look at comparable companies and assess how they are valued.
How fast
by johnnyblueDosk, how quickly should a SA be able to complete the aforementioned for say 10 companies?
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by ermenwith a lot of pain... screaming and crying...
dosk, why do you have to go
by numidosk, why do you have to go through all of those steps? all the historical data you mentioned should already be in capital IQ and all you need to do is run a company screen. why do you need to manually enter that data?
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Yeah sorry if that was unclear, wrote it quickly
by dosk17Also guys I should note: you may not have to actually do all of the above. It depends on what you're doing it for - sometimes CapIQ is acceptable, as numi says.
Keyser: As far as speed, if you do it that way it will take hours for 10 companies. Focus on accuracy first, then worry about speed.
numi: For Fairness Opinions for example, you can't just rely on CapIQ because everything needs to be 100% precise. And if you have an anal Associate/VP on a normal project the same applies.
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anyone have any tips for SAs
by waltersobchekanyone have any tips for SAs when it comes to spreading comps? things to reduce errors, aside from the obvious attention to detail, and also finding those non-recurring charges?
so data entry? sounds like
by onickjoso data entry? sounds like a pretty intellectually challenging job.
it involves accounting, but sounds like absolutely no need for actual accounting knowledge is necessary
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by giocatoredoroOur comps come just from the 10-k and 10-q, rarely do we look to thomson or capiq for comps. We 'personalize' the comps and make necessary "value-adding" by ajusting some numbers. Comps do take a while though. I agree with dosk, ACCURANCY FIRST.
It definetly helps to have accounting knowledge. But data-entry skills are probably more important (gasp)
Why is it called "spreading"
by Blade1988Why is it called "spreading" comps, though? I don't see what you are spreading when you gather information and input it into Excel.
Also this might be a little off-topic, but what's the difference between interest and amortization in EBITDA? Aren't they both debts you pay off at certain rates over a period of time?
amortization is much like
by nystateofmindamortization is much like depreciation, only for intangible assets
asd
by pacmandefensedo SAs source deals?
highly unlikely
by joefishdo SAs source deals?
SAs source coffee and if you're lucky, bagels