Updated Views on private credit arms of top banks (GS, MS, JPM)?
Any commentary on momentum, WLB, comp, industry perspectives would be helpful. Seems GSAM is leading the pack with one of the largest DL funds ever raised recently. Believe MS and JPM are laggards but likely hot on their tails to expand their practices?
How is comp at the junior and mid-levels? Read from a 2021 post that it was tied somewhat to banking and included a discount but assuming that has probably changed significantly given soaring comp levels at the MF / UMM funds. More market now? How does it scale as you move up?
Does the banker life style carry over or chiller hours like other PC funds?
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Sources: banker career/lifestyle....not all that great? worth it?, How do investment bankers handle long hours?, Banking vs. The Buy-side: 10.5 considerations, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/do-bankers-tend-to-over-exaggerate-hours?customgpt=1, What is corporate banking?
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GSAM private credit is widely known to be a sweatshop.
Do you know if they pay in line with some of the sweatier groups like Apollo, Ares, BX, etc?
In the same group but different bank.
Ranges from 50-80h depending on dealflow and seniority.
That's helpful - thank you. How's the comp? Especially as it relates to other MF credit shops. Just looking for junior / mid-level numbers (associate to VP). Understand that comp at the top levels can vary quite a bit based on fund performance, etc.
Pretty much in line with IBD groups from what I can tell.
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Any info on Citi’s latest platform with Apollo? Is it more like a partnership?
It's a partnership where Citi gets a fee for placing the credit and Apollo underwrites it for their funds. Apollo is very hungry for credit deals for Athene and it's humongous JV with Mubadala - Apollo is building (or already has?) one of the strongest credit origination machines out there. The more they originate, the more selective they can be and do the highest risk/reward deals. There are a few other firms that are doing similar partnerships: Centerbridge / Wells, Oaktree / Lloyds (Europe), AGL (insurance) / Barclays.
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