Small SM vs. MM Opportunity
Have two opportunities and want some advice on how to evaluate each one. For context did 2 years banking and some PE after.
- Small SM ($400M AUM) - Very lean team. Comp includes some carry. Founder incredibly smart and previously successful at a much larger fund. Strategy is unique but maybe not as scalable as a typical L/S equity fund.
- MM Pod offer at one of the big four: PM has been a PM for ~2yrs. Probably don't need to elaborate much on this one as this has been discussed many times on this forum.
Really focused on how to evaluate the SM offer. Carry in the fund is obviously important to me. But also want to make sure I don't silo myself if the fund ends up floundering. Keeping this intentionally vague for anon purposes.
Edit to say $200-$400M AUM
Is the SM just starting out now or has it been around for a bit? Would try to diligence AUM history if it's been around. If you haven't yet, you should ask about returns and what the founder thinks about scaling (timing and target size)
Are the sector / industry coverage options the same at the SM and MM? If not, do you have a preference for one or the other / is one more niche?
Do you have a preference between more short-term / market-netural investing (MM) or slightly longer duration / looser risk limit investing (SM)?
These questions would be important to think about and understand your view on. Would let others who are more experienced chime in, but my first take is that the SM is a bit of a riskier option near-term, but potentially higher outcome medium term if the fund performs well given carry in the fund. I also think that it would be easier to get another similar MM role after the SM if it doesn't (since it sounds like a relatively new MM pod / not one of the top established pods anyways). Downside is that if you like the MM model and can perform well in it, the sooner you get in that seat the sooner you'll likely have a P&L-tied risk-taking seat
Thanks for the reply. All helpful things for me to consider. To answer your questions below:
My thought process is that pods are always hiring so this “same” job would be available later if the SM didn't work out. I just wasn't sure if the difference in investing types would prevent me from making the switch later if needed.
How was PM track at prior firm. If they didn’t have track, how did they raise 200-400 (impressive) and how confident you think they can manage risk for the first time
Larger cap is more translatable. MM is the move here.
is the amount of new manager threads a leading recession indicator or whats the takeaway here
congrats on gumshoe lol
Doesn’t sound like gumshoe
Not Gumshoe but I had read the Gumshoe thread before I posted this and can see why you think that lol. I would say this opp’s investment mandate seems similar and would prob be a good comp.
MM seems like a much better choice from the outside for someone at your experience level. 3 reasons
Thanks for your reply and I largely agree with you. I guess my thinking was that going with the SM would give me two shots on goal (I.e SM doesn't work out I could go to a pod vs. pod doesn't work out to this SM opportunity)
The strategy of the SM is more unique than typical L/S both in types of companies and geography. So wasn't sure if the pod opportunity would be closed to me if the SM didn't work out.
SM of that size with some carry sounds way better. You’re likely to still have a job in 2 years at the SM, and probably not at the MM. Don’t even think it’s likely you’ll make more at the MM either.
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