2025 ACTUAL UNBIASED PRESTIGE RANKING (OFFICIAL)
S++ : PJT RSSG, CVP, Q, Allen & Co, M Klein, Gordon Dyal
S+ : PJT M&A, LAZ, EVR M&A, GS TMT, JPM HC/M&A, MS MENLO/M&A
S : GS Classics, JPM (rest), MS (rest), MOE RX, HL RX, PWP HC/RX, GHL
A+ : PWP (rest), Moe (rest) BofA FSG/M&A/REGL, Citi M&A/IND/FSG, Barc FSG/PU&I/TECH/HC
A : GUGG, BofA (rest), Citi (rest), Barc (rest), DUC, LionTree
B+ : UBS LevFin, DB FSG /LevFin/REGL/IND, BMO M&M
B : UBS (rest), DB (rest), HL M&A, RBC, WB, JEFF
C+: BMO (rest), TD Cowen HC/TECH, WF, Baird, Piper Sandler, HW, RJ CR (Financo)
C : RJ (rest), TD Cowen (rest), Solomon Partners, Nomura, Macquarie, FTP
D : HSBC, BNP Paribas, Mizuho, Stifel, Lincoln International, Cantor Fitzgerald, Oppenheimer & Co
This is so bad lmao
Thanks for the constructive feedback Analyst 2!
Get a job dude
Congrats on Ducera, Liontree, Greenhill, Guggenheim, BMO
Gugg is easily a top 12 ib and deserves A tier. Soon to be S tier
All were underrated in the original (AKA mentally challenged) ranking.
GS TMT should be on the top rung, who is MFPE focused and picks CVP over GS TMT? same with allen, m klien and dyal. this is seems more career banker focused at S++.
GS TMT is filled with low caliber talent from nontargets and DEI quota fillers nowadays. CVP, Allen, M Klein, Dyal, etc are lean, mean, money making machines.
Congrats on BMO M&M, no idea what that group is but congrats on it!
Arguably above the worst groups at UBS/DB, hence I bumped it up a tier.
Top global metals & mining group for something like ~10-15 straight years I forgot the exact #
Any group is probably better than the worst DB/UBS group because that includes DCM, which basically has no exits. It is more useful to compare to the average DB/UBS group, and I think it is ludicrous that any BMO group is competitive with that.
Also am at DB, Ind isn't a top group and is not above the rest; it's FSG/LevFin/REGL as top groups. From browsing threads in this forum; it seems like the consensus from individual RBC threads over the past 3-6 months from RBC analysts is that RBC exits worse than DB (look up the well-titled RBC exits?
thread where various RBC analysts answer or the RBC vs DB thread which has an ED comment with 10 upvotes saying RBC exits worse than DB). I think it seems like both street and WSO consensus is that DB>RBC for exits.
See below for comments from various RBC employees + banking seniors:
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/rbc-vs-db
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/rbc-exits?page=0
Am I basically defending the firm I am going to and so am biased? Yes, but DB is clearly ranked too low. DB was also above UBS in the leauge tables this year, but am aware they probably still exit slightly better so can accept being ranked the same as them, also not really sure why there's only 1 top UBS group on the tier list whilst we have 4 when the next tier has both of the "rest" on the same tier, just not a logical placement there.
Bump
Least delusional BMO employee
Eh Metals & Mining is a rlly strong team but yea super questionable putting it above RBC/UBS
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