For all my fellow IBers who are wondering the same … I know there have been separate threads on this topic but nothing centralized. What are some ways people remain looking young while working in this job? I work 80+ a week (staring at a computer the entire time) and so do my colleagues near me, but I have bags/dark circles under my eyes and they don’t (not genetics). What are some secrets people have that they wouldn’t mind sharing? How are there MDs who have done this job for years but remain looking young? Does anyone ever get 8 hours of sleep in this industry (including MD)?
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Botox and filler go a long way
A family member of mine does noninvasive surgery and you would be surprised at the number of bankers getting various treatments
Getting a good nights sleep is a partly a skill/discipline that takes time to develop. I find that doing these 3 things helps me get quality sleep straight through the night, even if it’s 6-7 hours instead of an optimal 8.
I heard these tips a while back and practiced them during my mba and now have a good rhythm and am able to feel decent on 6-7 hours. Anything less than 4 rem cycles, sub 6 hours, I usually fade in the afternoon and evenings like you would expect.
Just some tips that worked for me. Obviously sometimes this isn’t possible but I find the rhythm helpful.
Very helpful, appreciate that
Good tips. would add a few
- Don't be in bed if you are not intending to sleep (i.e. streaming, web surfing etc.) - you want your mind to only be thinking about sleeping when in bed
- I sleep with eyeshades on (black out curtains are an alternative)
Situational:
- sleep with ear plugs / noise canceling (My apartment is loud - older building, 3rd floor, facing a busy street in NYC - people think I'm outside when I talk on phone from my apartment). I use QuietOn nose canceling earphones - work great, you get used to them after a week or so, they are pricy but definetly worth it. No issues hearing alarm as high pitched noises largely aren't blocked by the noise canceling feature.
The cold room is way overlooked. Makes a world's difference but I can imagine for people with SO's it may be hard as woman get cold too easy
Thanks for the tips. I heard a cold shower in the morning goes a long way too.
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One of the most important things you can do other than get enough sleep is wear sunscreen everyday. Completely srs look it up
Even if you literally on inside on your screen all day and maybe go out for 10-15 mins a day?
That's what people have told me. My friend who uses it every day is 32 and looks like 24. Although he also only needed to start shaving at 28 so large part is genetics I am sure.
TRT (deadass what the young-looking MD's you're talking about are doing)
What's TRT?
Testosteron replacement therapy.. lol
Have a skincare routine that you're consistent with. You'll be shocked at the positive changes you'll see within a month.
What's the skin care routine tho?
Retinol - but consult a dermatologist before buying and using cus it can burn your skin if not used properly
There are tons of systems you can get started with like Brickell Men's which are pretty easy to follow.
I keep it simple though with face cleanser day/night, moisturizer during the day, and a peel during the night to clean my face post-gym.
For me it's wash your face (with a facewash + hands, not a bar of soap lol) after you wake up and before you go to bed. In the morning vitamin C moisturizer with some sunscreen in it (huge for medium to longer term). At night I throw on some liquid that's vitamin c/ferulic acid/vitamin e and then some moisturizer. If you're feeling extra rowdy you can exfoliate a few times a week. I never gave a shit about skincare until an old girlfriend gave me a few things and showed me how to do it, now it's therapeutic and girls notice. People really like CeraVe cause it's cheap and solid but everybody has different skin and there are a ton of resources about it online. After a few really late nights I'll use some random eye cream for dark circles but I imagine that's more short-term appearance oriented than working on medium-longer term skin health.
Supplement Magnesium Glycinate before bed. Your body uses mag for literally thousands of processes, and most of the population is severally deficient.
You’ll sleep deeper and be noticeably more well rested/sharp in the morning
Hey, not in IB, but still wanted to give some input here as I think these are universal suggestions to longevity:
1. Drink Water - it's super easy to forget when you are heads-down for hours at a time and chugging coffee. Drinking water and staying hydrated will do wonders making you feel good internally and look good externally (keeping skin hydrated)
2. Skincare Routine - to other's points in the comments, a simple routine is all you need and will do you wonders. I started a routine when I turned 21 and have aged fairly better than others my age. First thing would be retinol - remember though that retinol makes your skin more sensitive to the sun so you may want to apply it in the PM or can apply in the morning, but need to use a moisturizer with SPF. This brings me to the second suggestion - use a moisturizer 2x a day (morning and night) and ideally this has SPF protection in it - people think you only need an SPF on a sunny day, but that's not entirely true.
3. Exercise - it really doesn't take a lot on this. Try to walk 15-20 mins and get in a couple sets up push ups, sit-ups, squats to just keep your body moving. Even getting up and doing laps around the office is great compared to sitting all day.
4. Eating - it's really easy to eat shitty, quick, convenient food but this will not work long term. Again I am not in IB, but you get your dinner comped...try to not just think about what would taste great in the moment, but also will make you feel good. Going back to basics, you want less processed food (oatmeal, fruits, vegetables, meat, etc.), not snacks that have excess sugar and ingredients you cannot pronounce. I know this is probably the hardest part, but believe me doing this will help you long term.
5. Drinking Alcohol - Personally not a huge drinker so may be easier said than done, but try to reduce this to social drinking and even then not overdo it. To the point on hydration, drinking will dehydrate you and does contribute to the aging process. I know a lot of people probably have a lot of anecdotal stories on people they know who drink heavy and still look fine, but those are not the majority of cases. If you are going to drink, try to at least drink water intermittently.
6. Mental Health - You need to take care of yourself mentally before you can improve physically. Stress weighs on your body and will exhibit itself in some form or another. Please do not be afraid to acknowledge you are over-stressed or seek help. It's not a great attitude from others I have seen here who think it's fine to hold onto stress or think it's some badge of honor that they are stressed and don't talk to someone. Mental and physical health are linked and in IB, your mental health is likely to decline meaning your physical health is not far behind.
Hope this helps!
Agree with the above. I would say for eating that there are plenty of healthy great-tasting options out there (chipotle, sweetgreen, etc.) especially if you're living in a big city. Once you get into a habit of eating healthy, there's a noticeable difference when you eat shitty foods. If you do treat yourself try and do so in moderation. Instead of crushing two burgers fries and a shake maybe go for a burger and fries instead. Changing my diet was one of the best decisions I've made and it becomes an easy habit after a few weeks. You look better, have more energy, reduces the chance of nearly every disease, and improves your mood among other things
Awesome, appreciate it
All the following with the caveat it depends on your current age, family history (genetics),etc. And obviously ask a doctor and DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH - don't blindly follow advice from a 26 year old anon on WSO.
Although imperfect, as a baseline, recommend you:
With that out of the way...
Level I Proficiency Anti Aging - Bronze Tier (packs 90%+ of the punch though)
(in addition to all the above)
Level II Proficiency - Silver Tier
Level III Proficiency - Gold Tier
Level IV Proficiency - GOD Tier
Best of luck and I will end with a Clint Eastwood quote:
“I get up every day and don't let the old man in.”
There is no such thing as anti aging, this trend and community is full of bogus people sponsored by skincare companies that do fillers and injections behind closed doors, and it looks garbage after a few years.
Looking 25 at 30, 30 at 35, 35 at 40, etc does not benefit your life in anyways. What makes some really look younger than their age is the ‘baby face’ effect — it’s when your skull is wider than the length and typically resembles a child’s facial structure like Steph Curry, Pat Mahomes, etc — not a handsome look most would say but I digress lol.
I’ll admit, as a man, take care of your hair. Hair thickness and your hairline can literally shave or add serious years to your age. So look into finasteride or dutasteride. You can also look into facial hair removal, typically once men start hitting the strides of facial hair growth, they’ll always have that little shadow no matter how clean they shave, that makes you look significantly older. Lastly, maintain a lean body fat, having a countered face typically makes you look younger. Those are you three best options and will make you look great.
Alcohol
Use face mask once or twice a week, and anti aging lotion
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