Beckies Going Home at 10pm for “Mental Health”
I’m all for working with competent women, but I’ve worked at a lower-tier BB for the past two years (ignore title) now and there are some women here who are literally only here because they are women. I’m so serious when I say I’m looking to lateral because I’m done picking up their slack and watching them go home at 10 pm for their “mental health” while I’m in office until 2am every day. Nobody asked them to pick this career and they likely took the spot of somebody who was actually grinding like a mf to try to get here. Anybody in a group with competent women instead of Beckies suffering from victimitis? Sorry for this rant I get how I’m now acting like a victim by saying this but I’m just so done with this. Any color here would be appreciated.
It’s your issue that you’re in the office till 2 every day. If the others are bad they’re not going to get staffed that heavily anyway
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10pm every day is still late lol. Are they staffed on different things? Are they leaving the office to go wfh? This reads like you’re an insufferable hardo that’s mad someone isn’t suffering as much as you.
10pm is not late for BB IB. Was at a top BB and my earliest night in my first 6 months (ex Fridays/weekends) was about 10:30pm
10pm to leave the office and go work from home? Yes, that is late post-covid where in most teams it’s acceptable to head home in the evenings.
Oh wait sorry didn’t see you are at a top BB forgive me for insulting you you must be right!
We're not talking about first six months. If OP is about to be a third year analyst and he's in the office until 2 AM day in and day out he is doing it wrong.
We don’t have full context. Clearly there could be a FaceTime culture. When people go to “WFH” we all know they have a lull and will be less busy.
Yeah incredible bad that people in this industry leave the office after 12 hours to work from home.
We need more toxic workplaces where someone asks if you have half a day off if you leave before midnight
You sound like a complete virgin
Crabs in a bucket mentality, but agree that women are given lighter workloads. Going home at 10 pm is a problem, and going home at 2 am is also a problem. The problem is everyone is being exploited and giving up the best years of their life for peanuts! Hope this helps
Everyone has a hand and they’re playing it. If you could leave at 10pm, you would. These girls may not be finance-obsessed, but if they see an opportunity to make double what their friends in, say, marketing make, then it’s a no-brainer.
Sorry bro you’re inefficient
DEI Becky spotted
DEI Beckies crashing out in the comments
How does another analyst leaving earlier have any impact on you. Are you staffed on deals with multiple analysts?
Yes exactly they are analysts on the same deal team and they log off completely when they go home (has never responded to pings) and when I confront them about it they just say they’ve been going through a lot and don’t need to hear my critiques about their work habits considering we are both AN1. I end up picking up her slack and I don’t want to talk to superiors about this as I’m unsure how it’d look if I was complaining about that.
Just don't cover their assigned work and the ASO/VP can address that.
I do agree with them that you are not their manager and should not be critiquing their work or hours or complaining to seniors about them... you should be on the same team as your analyst class, but that also doesn't mean you need to cover if they miss work
Why on earth do you have multiple AN1s on the same deal?
I'd also probably also mess with you or tell you to fuck off if the creepy awkward Indian kid that was my same year was monitoring what time I went home.
Take it from someone who suffered due to DEI politics. You need to be aggressive and make sure VP+ know that Becky doesn’t pull her weight.
MD needs Beckys in the team for the bonuses so they are perfectly fine with you making up for their slack. Besides, the AS and VP will toe the line and make the Becky look better come reviews because of political necessities. Be aggressive in making sure VP and above are aware. You will be surprised how many of these Beckies get away with crap like this after minimal flirting with MD and/or being his work wife.
Thank you will do.
Ready for all the downvotes given this forum is mostly prospects and interns who are scared of DEI and of women.
Stop pretending like this is some grand injustice. A month ago you were posting about not getting R1s for SA interviews, maybe focus on fixing that instead of blaming women in the industry. Stop blaming others and just focus on improving yourself. All the top firms still hire a ton of non-diverse people, so it's on you for not converting anything.
I’ve worked with great women and terrible women at every level, same as men. Sure, it may sometimes be easier for them to get a foot in the door. But after that, you still have to perform, especially in today’s environment where DEI programs are getting rolled back. This job isn’t some uniquely male capability. Plenty of women do it just as well, if not better.
Women are DEI. Gender DEI is the only one banks care about.
I’m all for making fun of women or any group for that matter but this critique is completely stupid and reeks of the ‘tism.
I’m sorry that you either work at a sweatshop where you’re forced to stay in office all night or have a lowly sweatshop worker mentality that forces you to stay in the office. That’s a miserable and pathetic existence in either case. I’m glad your Beckie peers are better off than you and at least leaving at 10 PM. I have never cared where my analysts were. All I care is that they are wherever they need to be to get their job done efficiently.
It doesn’t matter how long someone stays in the office. “Time in office” is not a success metric that matters personally or professionally, you idiot. Quality and quantity of work completed, deals closed, fees earned, rankings, bonuses, total net worth etc are success metrics that matter. What matters is what you accomplish and how much you earn, not how long you sit a human cage like a moronic zoo animal.
Hell I’ll take it a step further, I don’t even really give a fuck how many hours my analysts work. All I care is they get their work done quickly and correctly. If Becky A can do her work completely and accurately by noon, turn comments by 1, and get it to MD, by 1:30, I care fuck all about what she does the rest of her time, I want her on my staffings and rewarded and promoted. The inverse is also true, I don’t care if a typical Billy like you jacks off in the office until 2:30 am every night, if your efficiency and work product and accuracy are slow and shitty, I want you off the team ASAP.
You have to be incredibly incompetent if you’re consistently “covering” for the “Beckies” that are at your level. There’s a split of staffings and a split of responsibility for each staffing that you should be able to make fairly even, if not the first attempt, then after a few attempts. Each person completes their share of allocated deliverables. If that share is not competed, then that person is held accountable and explains themselves to the seniors. I have never in my entire career covered for somebody unless they asked me to and I had a desire to or if it’s really an unavoidable emergency. I have never worked with someone so meek and ineffectual and subservient that they would feel forced to cover someone else for months and years.
Have I seen women, and men, coast or be ineffective or lazy, either on purpose or unintentionally? Of course. Have all of them eventually been removed from the team as a result within 6-9 months? Of course. I am lucky to have worked with sane seniors that know a drag on the team when they see one.
Becky spotted ^
Guy that gets zero bitches spotted ^
Considering the OP is also posting about superdays, he really must be delusional and is going to struggle in this industry.
I totally agree with what you said. I literally don’t care if it takes delusional 3rd year analyst Dave until 2am every night, he is either 1) inefficient or 2) incapable of speaking up (get things restaffed, get another resource, have someone more senior pushback or step in etc).
Honestly Becky A (or the male version known as prep school Phil) are my favorite to work with. They consistently do B+/A- work, aren’t insufferable, and are like little golden retrievers. I dgaf if they outsource it to the India team, AI the materials, or rip them from the hardo’s deck. As long as I get a b+ on my desk when I arrive, I can polish it up for the MD in an hour turn in the afternoon and we can to drinks and I’ll make sure the VP/MD knows they are “reliable, efficient, and driving the process forward”
Also, if you’re staffed with someone of your same level and you feel like they are incompetent and you’re covering for them, either everyone is aware or you just suck. Rather than being an idiot and complaining that they just suck, use it as an opportunity to step up. After a call just send your notes to the associate/vp with next steps and proposed splits. Send around your shell and say you can drive on x, if others take y & z. When your pages are done, send on the chain or chat or say, “hi X, I’ve finished the the buyer universe, attached if you want to review piecemeal, otherwise, Y, if you could please consolidate with your strip profiles (also happy to consolidate)
Bingo. My favorite anaysts at my PE firm to work with are always the most efficient ones that get me good enough, B+/A- work. I don't want to stay up till 1 AM if I can avoid it and you taking 30 mins - 1 hour more for a ~5% better product across multiple turns is the difference between a 11 PM day vs. 1 AM day. Coincedently, firm promotes the perfectionists less than they do the more efficient workers. Not sure this is as common in IB though, think some people in banking really just are super OCD/perfectioniost.
At least it is 10pm. Come to Canadian banks, they take off at 5pm
One day you’ll realize that working until 10 PM or 1 AM every single day is basically modern-day slavery.
Even if you’re making 2–3x more than people working a normal 9–5, they still have the better life.
Money isn’t everything. Time, health, and the best years of your life are what you’re trading away.
Is it really worth it? That girl leaving at 10 PM might actually be the smartest one in the room.
Or she is a DEI Beckie and is aware that MD needs her for his gender quotas. Mid bucket and promotions are guaranteed as long as bare minimum is done.
Are you sure they are not just more efficient than you are? (hahaha)
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Incorrect. I have been a staffer at BB and female juniors complain far more than male counterparts even though their workloads are 70-80% male juniors.
The only reason they have the audacity to leave early is because Seniors need them for their gender quotas which play a key role in their comps and promotions.
Its okay dude. Just say she didn't let you hit bro
Dude just go home the same time as they do.
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