Centerview Partners is paradise
Investment banking was never your passion, you felt. In fact, finance was something that was beneath you whilst you attended your super-target, Princeton. You were, and have always been destined for greatness. And thanks to your philosophy coursework and Cap and Gown eating club status, your fellow sophomore peers knew it too. In fact, you thought you had reached self-actualization on occasion when hitting the pen with gold medalist Chloe Kim, discussing the profound meaning of the phrase "shreddin".
Unfortunately, your eternal bliss fell apart when you reached home for summer break. You're only a rising junior, you profess, when your father, a Fortune 400 principal (Football, class of '86), asks "what are you going to do with a philosophy degree, Thomas". After serious contemplation, you realize you will take a short tangent on exploring the meaning of life to sustain a living. Epictetus wasn't born into royalty and you decide you'd settle for a trajectory similar to his. That and your dad threatened to cut you off if you spent the summer in Sicily again.
On Campus Recruiting
You decide you'll pursue the most prestigious and "intellectually stimulating" job you can find. However after failing understand how to navigate VSCode and stumbling on basic probability brainteasers, you realize that quantitative roles are out of reach. Nonsense, you tell yourself. These are vocational roles anyway, you were meant to think strategically. After browsing through Handshake, you land on a role titled "Investment Banking Summer Analyst - Strategic Advisory". Investing seems like a worthy challenge you think to yourself. Paired with strategy made for an enticing role.
You call your dad to tell him you found a job for next summer. That'll show him. On the phone, he is confused as to whether you've actually been accepted for the role, and after two minutes, he realizes you're hopeless. Days later, you receive an email from a Centerview analyst - "Superday Invite". You have no idea what a "superday" is but thanks to context clues, you realize this is the final round interview. Easy enough.
Interviewing - "don't appear desparate"
In the interview waiting room, much to your surprise, someone old guys named Rob Pruzan and Blair Effron show up on the screen and talk about "Centerview's founding values" and how Centerview's analyst program is "banking, consulting, and business school all in one". You're not really sure what that means but it sounds ideal. In fact, everything your interviewers told you sounded ideal.
"We recruit in the fall because we get top talent no matter when we recruit. Our timeline is the best for finding great talent like you"
"Centerview is one half Mckinsey and one half Goldman Sachs"
"People stay here because this bank is the best to build a partner platform (evidence needed)".
After navigating your painfully easy "fit", "leadership", and "critical thinking" interviews, only one stood in your way to the job. The toughest one, in fact: a "strategy" interview with a partner.
"How many coffee shops are there in Manhattan", he asks. After laboring through a five minute explanation leveraging your extensive knowledge of shops such as Delis and Sey Coffee from your stays in your fathers UWS apartment, you finish the interview knowing the partner felt lucky to have met a candidate with this much raw intellectual ability. Later that day he calls you and congratulates you for a job well done. The job is yours.
On the job
During your first week at the bank, you are completely stoked. You feel delighted that you now get to tell your philosophy peers that you work in strategy investing now. How stupid are they, not ever considering getting a real job on their own. You relish in joy when you get staffed on your first client - Verizon. However your joy quickly turns to anything but when the third year analyst on the account enthusiastically provides you with all of their grunt work. You read through the email chain your principal forwarded you the partner's email chain with Verizon's deputy second vice principal in corporate development. "Can you pull everything related to offshore data centers". You scoff as you read your partner submissively reply with "will do, thanks for the request".
You spend the next few days scouring Google, capIQ, and Tegus to find disparate, useless pieces of information. You present your hard work to the senior analyst, and to your dismay, he replies with "thanks". You quickly realize you don't have to be on the email chain (you aren't) to know that you put 20 hours into no tangible product. You're too depressed to even realize you're not even investing yet.
Discouraged, you find yourself looking to feel redeemed. You check your email to see a subject line reading "Centerview Town Hall featuring Tulsi Gabbard - please provide questions". Your demur outlook immediately shutters away. This was an opportunity to rub shoulders with the elite. You excitedly open the Zoom ten minutes early and pre-type smart questions such as "From a fellow independent thinker, how does it feel to revolutionize the democratic party through independent thinking". Unfortunately, Blair misses your question and instead asks rather trivial ones like "So how does the democratic party's evolution impact the advice we are going to provide our Fortune 100 clients?". Still cool.
Scenes at the firm
As you turn the corner on your first analyst year, you realize how naïve you once were. You now proudly tell sophomores on networking calls what "strategic advisory" entails and how "Centerview doesn't have many traditional exits to buyside because the opportunity cost of staying is so high". "They'll never make it into a firm as prestigious as Centerview" you think to yourself two minutes into hearing them discuss their boutique banking sophomore summer internship. Either way you still give them the time of day because it makes you feel good.
Meanwhile, you're consistently getting crushed. Your dumbass staffer took your request to "work with exciting high-growth consumer companies" and staffed you with discovery work with a Managing Director. When did Centerview get Managing Directors? Pitch after pitch filled with free work over the past few months has left you feeling dead. Is this place really as good as it seems? You used to tell sophomores you never pitched.
Climax
You just finished your second year at Centerview. Your social life is deteriorating. As is your health- after telling yourself you're going to exercise every day once the fancy and expensive office gym was completed, you realize you'd rather be crucified after seeing your partner change naked in the locker room. Even worse, you check LinkedIn to see many of your peers at other banks have accepted buyside offers to invest at firms such as "Blackstone". How short sighted, you think to yourself. The third year at the bank really completes your learnings.
Despite having this thought for over two years, thanks to it being frequently repeated by senior leadership, you start to question it yourself.
Frustrated, you go upstairs to get some lunch. This offers no reprieve. You overhear a fellow analyst repeat their standup comedy routine in the cafeteria for the fourth time this week. "I used to work at SVB, now I work for Santa Clara County!" Your frustration mounting, you start to understand why that one analyst from the University of Miami punched another banker at a happy hour a few years ago.
You are now desperate. You used to be so promising, and now you have 12 more months left as a sell side analyst. You frantically begin searching graduate programs in Philosophy, your true calling. Whatever hope you briefly had evaporates when you quickly realize that you literally cannot afford to pay back your 50k signing bonus in order to quit.
Not mentioning the prospects that love hyping up cvp on this forum is criminal
Know for a fact that we work in the same office. Contains certain CVP buzzwords and things we do. Thought honestly dude, the bonus is amazing and we're gearing up for another fat payday with how good things are looking this year.
money solves all problems, eh?
Are you implying that it doesn’t? 😮😮
Classic Centerview response. Weren’t associate bonuses lower than PJT this year?
I don't think PJT associates got anywhere close to $750k-$800k all-in
Yes, they were.
No offense but can the mods explain why they have eliminated the whole thread? I get removing hate speech / doxing info but these guys shouldn't be saved by the mod team for their ignorance / immaturity. Let them be exposed as they shouldn't be interning / working in this industry especially at the EBs they claim to work at.
I'm pretty sure the student got rescinded and was going bonkers. People were talking about it at my semi-target (same one he went to)... the power of the internet is insane
Might be a bit early but does this mean one spot at PJT/CVP just opened up as a result?
Is the Semi-Target in DC. If so know who this kid is.
Did he actually get rescinded? I remember checking this thread a little earlier last night and at most dude was acting like a mild dickhead so am surprised that’s all it took
Can you verify?
I'm pretty speechless. What a small world. Didn't expect all this.
As someone who’s late to the party and has only seen the post-purge thread can someone give me a quick rundown wtf happened?
I'll take an attempt from what I remember from last night - read the thread at like 9 CT.
- Black sophomore from Stern (I will call P1) (might attend Georgetown/Northwestern I forget) replied to the PJT comment above saying "glad I have offers at both".
- Another prospect (P2) says P1 lied on his resume about his GPA judging by his post history
- P1 says some moderately inflammatory stuff in response to P2
- Certified A2 replies to P1 saying they were their superday interviewer (bank unclear, either pjt or cvp) and told P1 to be careful what they post online
- P1 replies "PM me my name", etc
- P2 writes a lot complaining about not getting EB interviews and "only" getting a summer analyst role at Raine. P2 claims to be asian with a 3.9+ at Wharton
- P1 and (P3 - claims to be a black freshman at Wharton) start attacking P2, P2 attacks back. Gets ugly quickly
- Certified A1 replies to P1 and P3 with standard WSO anti-diversity talking points
- A1, P1, P2, and P3 keep dogpiling and eventually entire thread gets deleted.
- P1 got rescinded according to incoming analyst above
They wasted their human capital before they could waste their human capital in banking.
That's hilarious
Imagine being an adult and pissing your life away on an internet forum
Based A2. Can't imagine what that conversation with HR was like, if true. Hey, I'm gonna need you to rescind this kid's offer. Why? Got into a mild scuffle on WSO.
Did he get rescinded by both
Holy only 12 comments survived
I was deeply confused when I saw that there were only 17 comments in this thread now and 9 of them were new.
Let this be a lesson in how incredibly easy it is to identify yourself online. These banks give out so few offers, do you really think it's hard to figure out who you are when you provide your race, school, GPA and bank you received an offer from?
It's a good reminder for us all. Finance is such a small world. I know that people who know me could connect the dots if they read all my posts in one go. I also went to an uncommon school for banking and cover a niche segment. Don't give away all your details at the same time on here unless you're okay with someone reading everything you've written off anon on here.
You can give yourself away just by knowing something.
It’s no joke, I’ve recognized some of my irl friends on here just by piecing together their post history
I will have to say no to banking respectfully.
DId kid actually get his offer rescinded
I Thank you
Lol a kid got his offer at CVP / PJT rescinded within 1 day off a mid-day rant?
There is a guy on LinkedIn with a post from Cornell 4 days ago saying he got an SA 2024 offer at CVP. It didn't get taken down so the poster above is probably lying
MODS BRING BACK THE FUCKING POSTS AND STOP CENSORING OUR SHIT
Getting my offer rescinded is paradise
.
This thread delivers lol
Quos non est facilis consequatur minima eos tempore. Et omnis occaecati et.
See All Comments - 100% Free
WSO depends on everyone being able to pitch in when they know something. Unlock with your email and get bonus: 6 financial modeling lessons free ($199 value)
or Unlock with your social account...
Laborum rerum ut vero quo rerum. Voluptatem itaque labore dolores rem nesciunt et sit sit. Eos nostrum quia et optio dolor. Quaerat omnis perspiciatis omnis ea. Nostrum omnis tempora iste. Suscipit aut nisi dolorem a voluptatibus modi.
Quam quibusdam aliquid laboriosam. Voluptates et ipsam non ut incidunt. Provident corrupti omnis aspernatur magni dicta voluptatem dolores maiores.
Omnis dolores et quidem assumenda omnis. Et enim iure nostrum quis consequatur tempora ad. Amet voluptas earum praesentium omnis harum. Molestiae non eveniet ea sunt eveniet.
Nihil est atque dolorem delectus odit eum quia similique. Assumenda quidem et earum eligendi voluptatem illo aliquid.
Maiores et nesciunt molestiae fugit delectus facilis omnis id. Placeat aut voluptatem illum nesciunt. Possimus possimus voluptatum eos illo. Quisquam quia molestiae cupiditate fuga est qui.