Compensation for bringing in a deal as analyst
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I am an analyst a boutique IB firm in a niche market. I have a close connection that tried to selling his company with a Wall Street IB but they decided to stop working with them because long story short they felt like the IB was trying to just push the deal and collect the pay check. After a few meeting with CEO, MP’s and myself, we are taking them in as a new client. This will be the biggest deal our firm has done if we manage to close on a sale. The project is just getting started and how should I approach the CEO about compensation? It’s a $500M+ valuation and we will take about 2.5% success fee as well as a monthly retainer. It’s a small firm with less than 15 people and even less working on the project. My job is doing all the financial analyst, valuation, helping with the CIM, creating a buyers list and anything in diligence, a lot of responsibility. My previous position at a VC firm, we we brought in a buyer for a startup, we took 10% of the deal but deals were never over 8 figures. Would asking for compensation around $1,000,000 be too aggressive?
1m!? Really?
Yes. Any amount over $0 is aggressive since you didn’t have that conversation on the front end. But on a more useful note, I think asking for =8% is not a bad open but there is no way they give that to you. I’d expect an extra $1-300k
Depending on how “close” this connection is to you, you could ask him/her, if they are really close to you, to require an “originator fee” to be paid to you.
My college roomate for 4 years / best friend’s dad.
Thank you for your input. I appreciate your response
You should learn to write better. This weird sentence above is the worst thing I've ever read.
Also, LOLOLOL yes $1m is too much. You're an employee, not a partner.
Too late man, should have had this chat way way earlier
You'll get a pat on the back, maybe a small sourcing bonus of 10k-20k, and keep your job / maybe fast tracked most likely.
Everyone on this forum is proving why people think investment bankers have no balls. A 10k bonus for bringing in $12M? Are you serious? The bankers of the 80s would literally be rolling over in their graves.
Of course, you should ask to be comped. Do more than ask, expressly mention how the deal would not exist except for you, that it will contribute x amount of dollars to the firm (If it's really $500M and 2.5% fee, then $12.5M.) Asking for between 5-10% of the success fee is not unreasonable at all IMO.
That to me is a no-brainer, what is less of a no-brainer is deciding how hard you want to push this. If you are laughed out of the room when you suggest that, you need to think about whether or not you want to leverage the prospect of leaving (and taking your roommates dad with you).
If I were you I would do this now, before the deal gets to later stages, before marketing materials are created etc. You want to nail down a success fee while they still have a very limited relationship with your friend's dad, because if they try and screw you they will try and build a close bond in a short amount of time to limit your leverage. Make a plan for if they try to stall.
Straight facts. You’ll never make it if you’re that soft.
5-10% of the sucess fee is pretty much correct.
Sounds like you're doing a lot of the execution work and if it's the largest deal the firm has done (will do), I would want 10% minimum and maybe more. If you negotiate with your boss/firm and they don't give a reasonably good origination fee and/or put everything in writing, have your friend/his dad require that you get an origination fee. You have a ton of leverage here. Use it. If your firm sucks and they don't want to pay you then jump ship to another ibank with the deal in hand and get paid.
Say it louder for the people in the back. Potential $12M+ payday for the firm + the ego stroke of completing a $500M+ deal as a boutique...
I'd echo what another person said about having the client request an origination fee. GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING!
I brought in an investor for my first IPO that generated meaningful revenue for the team through my own built connection as an Analyst 1 and wasn't compensated at all for it. Needless to say I recruited for other other jobs, dipped and never looked back.
I echo the above posts to start this conversation with your senior immediately, before everything gets too late. I would imagine the internal process for approving a originator fee would literally be only requiring the owner's nod, differently than other platforms. Obviously there'll be some sort of negotiations between you and your firm regarding the exact % to be paid out to you so be prepared for that. In the end 1 mil is 1 mil and these chances to cash out do not happen regularly especially at junior level.
The conversation you need to have is with your best friend’s dad. If he insists to your firm that you get a piece, that’s your best bet of getting a piece.
Ignore title. I think what people are missing is that OP is at a boutique. I have been in this situation myself, though it was a $50M raise at a 6.00% fee ($3.0M) that I instigated. I was set to get a smooth 20% but on half of the expected fee ($1.5M) because we have to pay counsel, salaries, blah, blah, blah per my boss. I'm sure he doesn't net half of the fee out before figuring out his commission for his deals, but $300K sounded reasonable to me as a 25 year old. Deal never closed and I nearly blew my brains out in a dark two week bender but that's another story.
I cannot think of a good reason why you would not ask for a fee or get one for the matter given how much value this deal would drive. Couple tips:
I worked at a small firm such as yours. We got 10% if sourced a deal. For all those at BBs and more institutionalized MMs you're probably not aware because this isn't' how it works at larger firms. However, at smaller firms its catch what you kill.
That said, you severely weakened your hand by not discussing this prior to making the intro.
You should definitely get a massive payout here and should in line with whatever formula and MD or whoever gets for sourcing a deal.
Honestly, if it was me, and I was getting iced after talking about it, I'd probably speak directly to my CEO contact.
If its your best friends dad I'd just talk to him and have him request an origination/sourcing fee on your behalf.
I would ask for a minimum 10-20% success fee in a legal contract. If they rebuke threaten to leave if they still don't play ball. Talk to your client about being paid as a consultant by them and effectively reducing the fees they pay to your firm.
Consulting within your firm would be ideal as you can play with various tax loopholes. If your firm is making $12.5M+ you should atleast get $2-2.5M.
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