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Why am I getting MS when I work at CS? Literally everyone is saying they're committed but if you talk to senior management, they say anything can go including the incoming class. Class of 2023, just be mindful of what’s going on. Shit is real and there’s no reason for me to provide caution

 

How’s the demeanor in the LA office? Are analysts/juniors nervous given the recent news? Annoying question, but will exits remain intact? I know they’ve historically been killer in terms of experience and placement, though I’m sure there’s some questioning as to how balance sheet changes/underwriting capabilities will impact mandates going forward.

 

Seconding this. Heard GS is getting absolutely slaughtered. Worried since I'm headed there next summer and they're cutthroat with offer rates.

 

This is accurate. The ones that got fired for the most part saw it coming due to performance issues.

These firings don’t feel like restructuring (anyone long enough in the industry knows this), and feel more like rightsizing the teams to a market environment where deal activity is 50% down vs. last year, and there was less attrition as tech/corporates are not hiring either.

Some banks overhired and therefore are now needing to fire more (e.g. GS).

 

They laid off 2-4 people (5-10%) pretty much in all advisory groups, except I think some groups haven’t heard yet

certain groups (not in IB but other divisions) were almost completely laid off

VPs/directors, 2nd and 3rd associates and 2nd year analysts 

heard there will be another round early next year too

 

Can confirm this as well was told personally safe for a few months at least but started to wonder what happens after. Round 2 probably January onwards or 1H22. Then maybe if forced to cut further maybe I am next as team is already very very lean

 

Can confirm all levels impacted. The allocation of layoffs is determined by a seniority-based selection mechanism without many objective “gates.” Those laid off thus far seem to include poor performers and political  “ugly ducklings” targeted implicitly

 
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For the most part we are in an industry full of high achievers. In the absence of any clear non-performers, then it can just come down to ruffling the least amount of feathers since Group Heads and decision makers have to protect their own political capital as well. In these situations with mandated cuts despite a solid team, then decisions can be based on some combination of politics, favoritism and “last in, first out.”

I’d encourage anyone impacted to not necessary take the news as a direct reflection of their value. I’ve seen many individuals laid off that land on their feet shortly thereafter and continue a successful IB career.

 

Bump. Any insight into if this is over / when the next round will be? The lack of transparency or timeline does not make for a great work environment

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