FT recruiting given unlikely return

Long story short I’m writing this as I wrap up the summer at a EB/BB. It was okay but I don't think I really performed well and will most likely not get the return. 

Can anyone point me to how to prep full time? What timelines should I expect, what are networking expectations, technicals, etc.? Any advice on navigating this would be really really helpful especially from others in similar situations

In the case that I actually do get the return is there also still a possibility of shopping the return? Really appreciate the help

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If you're unlikely to get a return offer, here's how to navigate FT recruiting effectively:

1. Timeline Expectations

  • FT recruiting typically starts after summer internships end, as banks assess their headcount needs based on return offers. This means most firms begin recruiting 2-3 weeks after internships wrap up.
  • Be prepared for a condensed timeline. Some firms may move quickly, while others might take longer to finalize their processes.

2. Networking Strategy

  • Start networking immediately. Reach out to contacts at target firms, especially those you’ve connected with previously. Mention your summer experience and express interest in their group.
  • Leverage alumni networks. Alumni from your school in IB roles can be a great resource for advice and potential referrals.
  • Be transparent but strategic. If asked about your return offer status, focus on the positives of your summer experience and your eagerness to grow in a new role.

3. Technical Preparation

  • Master technicals. Since you’re coming off an internship, you should already have a foundation. Focus on:
    • 3-statement modeling
    • Valuation techniques (DCF, comps, precedent transactions)
    • LBO modeling (if applicable)
  • Practice case studies. Some FT interviews may include deal analysis or case studies, so familiarize yourself with these formats.

4. Addressing the "No Return Offer" Question

  • Frame it positively. Highlight what you learned during the summer and how it prepared you for a new opportunity. Avoid blaming the firm or others.
  • Be concise and confident. Acknowledge the situation briefly and pivot to your strengths and readiness for the role.

5. Shopping a Return Offer (If You Get One)

  • Yes, it’s possible to shop a return offer. If you do receive one, you can still explore FT opportunities at other firms. However:
    • Be mindful of timelines. Some return offers have tight deadlines, so you’ll need to act quickly.
    • Only target firms that are a clear step up or align better with your long-term goals.

6. General Advice

  • Focus on what you can control. Perform well in interviews, network effectively, and stay organized with applications.
  • Don’t spread yourself too thin. Target firms where you have a realistic chance of landing an offer, especially those with open FT roles.

This approach has worked for others in similar situations, as seen in WSO threads. Keep grinding, and good luck!

Sources: Networking and timeline for 2023 FT IBD recruiting, FT recruiting is completely fucked, FT Recruiting after SA Advice, What will FT Recruiting look like this year?, FT recruiting is completely fucked

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Was in a similar spot as an intern too so completely get where you’re coming from. Theres still time to network for not only MMs but also BB and EB. Make sure that you have your story down though as that will be criticised a bunch. Next thing is to make sure that your technicals are sharpened so use the books like BIWS and platforms like margin of alpha. Feel free to comment and I can DM with more helpful resources too!!

 

Please please start networking right now, tons of people r getting offers communicated right now. Don’t be late to the game. But that being said make sure to be well prepped in terms of technicals and your ability to talk to your summer

 

You should talk to your summer team and see what they will do for you - I am personally aware of one guy from GS analyst summer program who did not make the cut but was told he could go around and market himself in interviews as though he had a return offer but wanted to explore his options; ultimately landed at JPM

If that is not an option my advice would be to kill your ego and aim for a lower tier of bank by saying things like it was a bad fit, very limited number of returns extended given tariff uncertainty / low deal-flow etc., assuming you want to do banking after grad. 

I don't think this will be a big impediment if you decide you want to do consulting / VC or some other path, no direct experience with this though. Good luck and keep your head up!

 

Echo the people above - these few weeks will be really crucial so make sure to invest your time and resources to lock in. Best of luck!

 

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