Group happy hour anxiety
we have ongoing socializing calls with my team and I always have absolutely nothing to say. I am an introvert + I feel I can't relate to anything my coworkers are saying. I always too scared to say anything so I end up not talking at all, which people notice. It is making me very anxious and I do want to get along with them and be liked etc. What to do?
Just be yourself. It’s okay to talk about things other than what they are all interested in. I personally like learning about other people’s hobbies and interests that are different than my own.
Good managers should encourage introvert colleagues to speak up or involve them in team meetings more. You should also come up with something you can discuss, maybe plans for the weekend or a hobby. A good point is also to bring up a topic and then ask the round for their opinion. Many social/extrovert people are just really good conversationalists. Most of top level management are really popular too. When is the last time you have seen a really ugly or anti-social leader?
People love talking about themselves, so make sure they do that and act like you care.
How to act like you care even though you don't: - Laugh at their jokes - Nod in vc meetings - Make interesting/engaging hand gestures (put hand under chin "thinking pose", etc) - Don't take yourself too seriously, act relaxed, have a beverage next to you and have fun
Good luck.
really ugly LOL rip
I meant ugly behavior, not looks. People in leadership positions are somewhat social or at least act like it. you have to take care of people, manage your team, etc
If a person really can't stand others and their problems, I am not sure if they would want to manage a team.
I really like your point about good managers speaking up and getting people involved and would generalize the advice a bit:
Regardless of what level you are (and especially if you are on the junior end of the spectrum), if you are socially proficient and can gracefully engage and rope in team members for whom the group conversation dynamic does not come naturally - that is a sheer charisma power play right from the pages of Dale Carnegie or Robert Greene. At the highest level, it becomes a fucking superpower.
People fucking love that type of charisma on their team and over time people have no problem following these types of people as they level up. They are the people that you remember from your time with a given team, group, or company.
Be like that. Find ways to make your friends and colleagues look cool and comfortable and people will go out of their way to keep you around. Seriously.
Understand and embrace that you're not the only one that isn't enjoying it. I find most audio-visual communication through the computer to be cringe, especially when there is poor internet connectivity involved.
Agreed
Pregame it
Super easy topic that always comes up at these virtual meetings is what series and movies is everyone watching. Even if you're a hermit crab, you'll have something to say here. Wait until the conversation naturally goes there or straight up ask "has anyone seen anything good lately?". As people discuss different series, it often leads into many tangential topics of discussion.
Totally agree. This actually happened at my last happy hour. One of the seniors started talking about a Netflix show and other seniors asked what shows people recommend.
I only took this job to get rich tbh and the unnecessary social aspect (talking about coworkers about useless shit) is a bit annoying, but try to care about all the same basic things they do. Just talk about something risk-less and mundane like Marvel movies or working out even if you don't, just fit in because then they'll accidentally ostracize you.
You must be super fun at parties
Hope you realize that “getting rich” is, by definition, a social endeavor.
Of course, I can turn on the charisma when I need to (networking events and such), I mean with regard to things like unnecessary social interaction; I have no social media, do not care what others think of me and I genuinely just want to become wealthy so I can stop stressing about bills and live comfortably and provide for my family. As per the 'super fun at parties' guy, I came up with nothing (immigrated and lived in poverty) so never have had time to party (an occasional few of course, but not too many); life is an infinite grind and I plan on getting ahead for myself and my family. Wealth isn't a Lamborghini nor dropping $5000 at a bar in one night. Wealth is being able to own various properties, own art for the future and lease a Lamborghini knowing you are not owning what is (typically) a depreciating asset for the sake of impressing others. Best of luck.
I have a lot of these anxieties which I deal with by going head first into interactions that make me nervous. The more you do this, the less and less anxious you will get in all social situations. Don't focus on having the perfect/right thing to say when entering the conversation. Also, a way to rationalize it is that people aren't inclined to dislike you unless you're legitimately a dick. As your nervousness stems from being scared that you'll annoy other people/make them uncomfortable, there's no real chance that you are annoying because we already know that you're a person who is considerate about other's feelings.
That's a more common problem than it may seem. Imo, you should listen to them more carefully. Try to understand what their passions are and how to relate with the group and with each of them. Ask some questions, try to make them think that at least you like their interests. People want to be heard while speaking. Moreover, you should have some interest too, so make some notes and try to introduce a conversation yourself. Eventually, it is completely normal that some people in a team could be more introvert than other ones. If you could just adjust your behavior a little bit, it is more than ok.
I am in sort of a similar situation. I am on the new business/pipeline calls every week at a CRE development shop with all the heads of investment for each regional office (since I’m underwriting all the deals for our regional office). Everyone on these calls are 40+ year old guys that have done massive projects, I am outclassed in every single way when it comes to expertise and knowledge (I’ve only been here 9 months and it’s my first development/acquisition role). For the last few weeks I have been silent on all the calls, since I don’t have a lot of valuable info to add, and I generally fill in the head of investment for our office in on all our deal specifics before our calls so he handles any questions.
Anyway, my new strategy has been to jump into the calls a few minutes before they start and engage with the people who join the calls first. That way I can have a more personal convo on a light starter topic, joke around a bit, let everyone know I’m on, then once the greetings end and technical stuff starts I fade out. Then it’s also easier to jump in if I need to on anything. It’s not a big tip, but starting the calls early can be a big help to let everyone know you are likeable and potentially important to the process.
A good way to not have to talk about yourself and also seem engaged is to just ask others questions. Not in an interrogative way, but just get them to talk about themselves. They'll come away from the conversation thinking you're a great chatting partner.
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