How to Outperform in Investment Banking?
Hey everyone,
I will be in Investment banking soon, and was wondering what are some tangible performance metrics measurable in Investment Banking?
I've heard people saying just work hard, don't make any errors, show lots of facetime, follow instructions and be proactive etc. But this seems very subjective, and am still unsure what exactly classifies a "Good" banker... I guess this uncertainty stems from the fact that in my past jobs, I've had set performance metrics to reach certain goals and targets etc.
Are there any tangible goals in Investment banking that they track, or is it mostly just subjective views from your upper management at the end of the day. They would just arbitrarily place you in top, medium, or bottom bracket based on how they feel?
Thanks.
When you start you'll figure it out quickly. Not making any errors as a junior guy is a lot easier said than done. All the subjective advice will make a lot more sense when you're actually working. Most goals in IB are day-to-day type deals: Finish this edit, build this model, bind these pitchbooks, whatever.
lol. i hope this was a joke
Dude...you never read Leveraged Sellout or "Damn, It Feels Good To Be A Banker?"
Google it IMMEDIATELY
Great article from LSO.
Basically at the beginning you simply need: 1. Follow directions 2. Don't complain 3. Don't make errors 4. Slowly add value by knowing what kind of slides the md wants
That's the basic start.
Just suck up to the team head and push back on all work and you will be fine
What you will be measured against is where you start. No one will expect you to come in knowing how to do everything (that being said if you don't have a finance/accounting major or background then please pay attention during your week of training so you at least know some of the lingo).
Work hard: When someone asks you to jump, ask how high. Seems stupid but trust me this is what they want. Ask questions: To continue with the analogy, if someone asks you to jump and you don't know how, immediately go to the 1st year analyst on the deal team (or one who you know the name of and who sits nearby) and ask them to teach you how to jump. You get to have someone teach you how to jump exactly once, so take your time with them and have them explain it to you as slowly as you need. They'd rather spend 10 minutes with you once, than 7 minutes with you the first time and another 5 minutes the second time. Don't mess up, but if you do, admit it quickly and fix it faster: Print your work out before you turn it in. Nothing you'll be doing is going to be very intellectually challenging. Frankly, unless you're an all-star you probably won't be making any models at all, and certainly not without supervision from someone older than you. So do your work perfectly, then print it and read it through to make sure it's perfect, then hand it in. If you realize you messed something up, or if someone calls you out on it, apologize once but apologize loudly (don't try to couch it with excuses). Then (and this is the most important part) fix it. If you messed it up, then you can fix it - and do it quickly. Facetime: Guess this one depends on the office. In my experience the safest thing to do is never leave before the 1st year analysts. If you have finished ALL of your work (and trust me, you will always have more work you could be doing), AND it is past midnight, then go up to whatever 1st year analysts remain in your group and ask them what they are working on and if you can help out in any way. Chances are really good that it would take more time to bring you up to speed on what they are doing than it would for them to just finish the work and get out of there, so you'll probably be in the clear. But they will remember that you were the kid who was there late and always offered to help, and they'll appreciate that.
To add on to what's above:
Fucking up: Generally speaking you should never majorly fuck up, but if you do don't let it kill you. I had an embarrassing situation where I mis-spelled not only my Associate's name but also my ED's name on an email. THANK GOD it was an internal email and not to a client (not that I'd ever email a client directly as a SA, ha!). Anyway, it was really embarrassing and I thought I had fucked my chances of getting a return offer. Push on, don't let anything get you down. Everyone is human, and while they definitely have near superhuman expectations of SAs in terms of sleep deprivation, they do realize that everyone makes mistakes from time to time and honestly they probably laugh about it. Keep your head up and always be positive, it'll make them like you too.
Thanks everyone for the response, and thanks for the thorough tips White Lion, SB'ed. So from what I gathered, there aren't any tangible performance metrics, but push through with strong work ethics and everything will come to fruition.
White Lion is spot on, from my experience.
1) Don't ask stupid questions (definition: a stupid question is any question that can be solved within 5 minutes via Google) 2) Act like an adult (don't talk about drinking/sleeping with women 24/7) 3) Don't be self-centered (talk less, listen more) 4) Learn how to use Google (have a question? Google it. Looking for something? Google it) 5) Sign-up for client-related alerts and fwd them to directors on that account 6) Create simple, beautiful, and flexible models that are easy to audit regardless of how complex your situation (don't hardcode numbers, stick to the same formatting, make sure models are easy to follow, DO NOT overuse colors / border styles, use proper coloring standards, make sure all numbers are nicely formatted) 7) If you are done with your work early and no one needs help, then either read up on valuations/banking/your industry or study older financial models 8) Don't complain too much about anything 9) Always grab a lunch/dinner/drinks with superiors when invited, at least in the first few months 10) Learn how to be fast with deliverables 11) Study INDIRECT, VLOOKUP, OFFSET, data tables, self-reference, INDIRECT + VLOOKUP, SUMPRODUCT with conditions 12) Don't be awkward 13) Don't look messy
outperformance occurs between the hours of 6pm on Friday and 8am on Monday
Thanks for the great tips Phantom,
Kanga, is this for reals? So working extra hours?
Unfamiliar with INDIRECT and OFFSET. Can anyone give me a gentleman's explanation?
The indirect function basically just returns the value in a particular cell referenced. It is effectively the opposite of direct linking and the merits of this are often when you have multiple files and you want to go to your "Model" workbook and return a given value from a specific cell on a specific tab.
The offset function returns a reference that is "offset" a number of rows and columns from a cell or range of cells... Effectively you "anchor" the cell or range that you want to be the reference point, and then if you are offsetting "2" rows for example, it will return the cell value that is 2 rows away. This is useful for running cases in a model when you want to be able to change a static input that will be chosen from a set of options. When you change the number, it will go to your cases and return that particular case.
What's really epic is that you can embed Indirects within Offset functions... This will blow your mind... Very cool for templates and outputs.
+1 for knowing how to embed indirects within offset. You can even vlookup on top of that. Most junior monkeys don't know how to use indirect properly without looking it up, let alone use several functions in one.
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