Investment Banking Scorecard

While perusing wsj.com, I've come across a very insightful link, high coincidently appears at a time in which the bank rankings seem to be skyrocketing on this forum, each with their own facts, assumptions, and bias

Well its time to put an end to this. Complements of wsj.com, 3 days ago they released the investment banking scorecard. There is NO better source to find a way to compare banks on deals, advisory , DCM, and ECM. You can also compare by region. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304…

Let's end the debate on which bank ranks tops

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boutiquebank4lifeWhy are you so worried about one guy bashing ubs? He's only doing it because you keep giving him ammo, just ignore the trolls instead of becoming one.
It's not "worried" so much as it is "disturbed," and if the site administrators felt the same way about his past incarnation jimbojones, each and every one of us has a right to not want the guy posting idiotic shit left and right for the more impressionable kids in college to be influenced one way or the other to make dumb and unprofessional career choices.

The next question I must ask is what you are doing coming after me?

 

BB4L, you've got a long history on here, so why don't you help with the solution rather than defend the abusers of what we are all trying to learn from. No Homo, you seem to have a decent head on your shoulders. keep it up.

UBS is a fine company for an analyst. It is top tier in the world of banks, in the grand scheme of things. And NO, I do not work there and I'm not promoting it. I'm just stating a fact. As an alalyst, this place is perfectly fine. Believe me. So are Piper and Jefferies.

 

There are just TROLLS, an then there are BIASED opinions about banks. People fail to look at the facts, and give misleading information about banks because

A. They work there B. The didn't get an offer C. They were fired D. They charged them $35 in overdraft fees on their $5 Starbucks

We need solid posters than can defend a point without personal opinions and personal attacks on the poster

 
boutiquebank4lifeI'm not coming after you nohomo, the guy is annoying and needs to be ignored instead of inflamed.
Would normally agree with you, but we've been down this road with this guy and we know how his unignored posts can end up interpreted as by the newer people to this forum.

Regardless, he's back out in the open now, and a ban seems to be pending.

 

Cheese, I understand where you're going with this, but I'd like to reiterate the point that I and many other certified users have made in other threads - it is completely irrelevant to you as an analyst where your bank ranks in the league tables. It doesn't matter that your bank is "expanding into Latin America" or how big their loan loss provision is. It's not going to change the quality of your experience one bit. Take it from those that have actually worked in banking - fit with your individual group is the most important qualifier. Ranking banks is ego masturbation for college kids and wanna bes.

- Capt K - "Prestige is like a powerful magnet that warps even your beliefs about what you enjoy. If you want to make ambitious people waste their time on errands, bait the hook with prestige." - Paul Graham
 
CaptKCheese, I understand where you're going with this, but I'd like to reiterate the point that I and many other certified users have made in other threads - it is completely irrelevant to you as an analyst where your bank ranks in the league tables. It doesn't matter that your bank is "expanding into Latin America" or how big their loan loss provision is. It's not going to change the quality of your experience one bit. Take it from those that have actually worked in banking - fit with your individual group is the most important qualifier. Ranking banks is ego masturbation for college kids and wanna bes.

CapK, as one about to enter the industry I'd like to thank you for making this point, because this was the sole focus of my search. I know that so much of this industry is going to suck (hours, inability to see friends/family, stress etc) but have weighed these factors against the merits and found the decision worthwhile. I know a lot of kids I've talked to are "prestige whores" and snobs, and are so caught up with league tables and allure that they forget that they are gonna be in the trenches with people for 2 years. I can say that when I was meeting with banks that culture/fit on a group level was my top concern, and am happy that I found a great group of guys that I am excited to learn from.

Thanks again for keeping the advice real! Appreciate it...

 
CaptKCheese, I understand where you're going with this, but I'd like to reiterate the point that I and many other certified users have made in other threads - it is completely irrelevant to you as an analyst where your bank ranks in the league tables. It doesn't matter that your bank is "expanding into Latin America" or how big their loan loss provision is. It's not going to change the quality of your experience one bit. Take it from those that have actually worked in banking - fit with your individual group is the most important qualifier. Ranking banks is ego masturbation for college kids and wanna bes.

+1 I totally agree. As soon as I find out how to be acrrtified user inwill take the appropriate steps as I will become one. Also, I know the things I've mentioned in previous threads are somewhat irrevelant to these people, but thu do serve a purpose. You may disagree, but I respect your candor. It's all what the interest are with the individual and what they want their career to turn into. I know if I was interested in LatAm exposure/moving or working there, it would be nice to work in IBD that is increasing their exposure to this market. If I was interested in green tech, I would like to work with a bank thy is doing deals in China or increasing their exposure to this market. Do you disagree?

 
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eyelikecheeseI know if I was interested in LatAm exposure/moving or working there, it would be nice to work in IBD that is increasing their exposure to this market. If I was interested in green tech, I would like to work with a bank thy is doing deals in China or increasing their exposure to this market. Do you disagree?
Completely agree with this, and that's my point exactly. It really bothers me when people get into pissing matches about rankings because everybody's situation is different. It's impossible to unilaterally say one bank is better than another without knowing specifics around a person's desired career path, industry of interest, location preference, group, etc. What is important to one person may be totally irrelevant to another.
- Capt K - "Prestige is like a powerful magnet that warps even your beliefs about what you enjoy. If you want to make ambitious people waste their time on errands, bait the hook with prestige." - Paul Graham
 
eyelikecheese
CaptKCheese, I understand where you're going with this, but I'd like to reiterate the point that I and many other certified users have made in other threads - it is completely irrelevant to you as an analyst where your bank ranks in the league tables. It doesn't matter that your bank is "expanding into Latin America" or how big their loan loss provision is. It's not going to change the quality of your experience one bit. Take it from those that have actually worked in banking - fit with your individual group is the most important qualifier. Ranking banks is ego masturbation for college kids and wanna bes.

+1 I totally agree. As soon as I find out how to be acrrtified user inwill take the appropriate steps as I will become one. Also, I know the things I've mentioned in previous threads are somewhat irrevelant to these people, but thu do serve a purpose. You may disagree, but I respect your candor. It's all what the interest are with the individual and what they want their career to turn into. I know if I was interested in LatAm exposure/moving or working there, it would be nice to work in IBD that is increasing their exposure to this market. If I was interested in green tech, I would like to work with a bank thy is doing deals in China or increasing their exposure to this market. Do you disagree?

Cheese, you don't even work in Banking - as you said via PM. Being a certified user doesn't guarantee credibility, you have never worked in IB, which is fine, but please don't give IB advice to those who are seeking it.

 

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