NY MD giving sh*t cuz SF team don't reply at 6am PT
Ignore my title. Recent A2A.
Working with a MD in NY and I didn't respond to his email that was sent 6am PT until 8:55am PT. Wasn't anything urgent or client related, just some internal communication. Did I rly do something wrong here?
This same person also gave me s**t before for not being in the office for a zoom call at 8am PT. Why does he even care where I'm dialing in from when we're not even in the same office?
Surprised you are A2A and this is the first time you've encountered this - pretty common and a known downside of SF offices. Not that you have to be online at 6am, but SF people get screwed frequently working NY hours in the morning and still staying late
I don't think you did anything wrong here - if this MD is in your group, when working on NY deals I probably would be keeping an eye on my phone as soon as I woke up. It's not right, but some MDs just think like "it's noon and has been 3 hours, where is he" regardless of what time zone you're in
Even working in NYC can suck when working with both LA and London time. Gotta wake up early for Europe calls and expected to work late for LA stuff. He worst is when you work so late that the London morning stuff creeps in. We are always expected to mold into other people’s times but never the other way around for NYC. This is all internal btw.
This was exactly my experience working in SF with a NYC deal team. Would get a ton of emails 6am-10am and start responding a bit after 7am. Pretty challenging to be responsive so early when NYC signed off earlier than us.
Glad to work in New York now, it was a major downside of my SF bank.
West coast juniors are expected to respond to emails 7:30am PT if they are waiting for something urgent and 8:00am PT on normal days. You can get to the office/start working later but at least email from your phone. My MDs on west coast often email at 5am or 6am PT. I am surprised you did not know this.
Another reason why IB culture is so shit man lmfao
I'm struggling with this right now as a new FT analyst, in a small West Coast office and always cross staffed with the east coast team. I asked a few times if I'm expected to be on for 5:30am-6:30am calls, and they said no. I take 7:00ams and later always (or urgent calls that are earlier), and I'm in the office at 7:30am-7:50am latest. It's pretty confusing to juggle because the seniors get in so early a couple days of the week, and there is no way I'm getting in at like 6 am. Any tips for how to figure out this dynamic?
Ask the associate for clear expectations
I asked, and it really seems the truth is that they don't have them. Also deal is adequately staffed there to where I really don't need to be on at 6am my time. Office has only been seniors for the 3 years that it's open and I'm the first junior they've had here. Any suggestions?
This sounds like you're doing it right. Seniors come in early because they're on client calls and want to do their best, which is done from the office - not as endearing to hear their kids screaming or dogs barking in the background these days.
You sitting on mute on internal calls is fine to either skip if both nonimportant/too early
Thank you for that- yep I often sit in on mute, and skip if it's a random legal diligence call or smth unless asked to join and take notes.
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