Recently heard about the Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) sending an outreach to a recruitment consulting agency to update their tier to bulge bracket and EB at the least. The recruitment consulting agency then updated the rank. Any thoughts on this?
| +147 | AI Creating More Work | 44 | 1d |
| +143 | Senior Banker's Guide to IB Recruiting / Group Placement (with a Healthcare Bent) | 18 | 10h |
| +140 | Shit PWP Culture | 88 | 15h |
| +117 | Is pay at BofA really that bad? | 58 | 1d |
| +80 | Day at Macquarie | 8 | 1h |
| +44 | Is the life of a VP at a 'top-bank' really good? | 15 | 2d |
| +38 | How bad did I mess up | 9 | 38m |
| +29 | Law school instead of MBA for RX Banking | 5 | 2d |
| +29 | No BB RO 2026 | 10 | 1d |
| +27 | Misrepresented Houston IB | 13 | 18m |
Career Resources
Get instant access to lessons taught by experienced private equity pros and bulge bracket investment bankers including financial statement modeling, DCF, M&A, LBO, Comps and Excel Modeling.
Not BB not EB not MM they’re in their own category but still closer to MM
any reasons behind?
Having spoken to senior people about this during recruitment, they’re not pursuing the BB and much less EB label. It’s weird the CMO would do that though.
Jefferies’ closest peers are pre-2008 banks like Merrill, Bear, and Lehman. Large balance sheet used aggressively, advisory focused but not exclusively advisory, offering a range of products but not the full suite across the globe like a BB. Senior bankers explicitly said this is the model they’re building, not BB and definitely not EB. Can’t really be MM either when they work on $1bn deals all the time, $5bn deals fairly consistently now, and even a few $10bn+ deals in the last couple years.
Ah the first EBB (elite bulge bracket) after RBC, of course
Jef is in their own bucket, though, will say "all the time" on 1Bn+ deals is a stretch, Jef works on any deals ranging from 100mm - 1Bn+ EV, it's a hallmark of Jefferies. Jef gets you ga reat experience for decent exits and terrible WLB (even for IB). It's a very unique bank and hard to categorize, but the actual deal experience is strong for most groups, even though outrageously sweaty (every bank is sweaty relative to a regular job; but there's a reason Jefferies is a meme for terrible WLB even in this industry; it's truly that much worse than the rest).
Do you have first hand experience? If so, any groups that will minimize the nightmare?
Per Refinitiv, more $1bn+ deals in 2025 than Moelis, Gugg, Lazard, Citi, etc. Either that qualifies as all the time, or we need to start reconsidering a lot of other banks.
CMO reaching out to Chinese agency beggin for more recognition is absolute drama LMFAO
Jeff acquire by Nomura could be a move
Thought it’s SMBC that owns a lot of Jefferies
If anything, SMBC will acquire a higher stake. Don’t know where you got Nomura from.
Echo your analogy with the pre crisis banks, RH has definitely voiced that’s what he’s modelling Jef after, coming from Drexel himself
Generally agree with comment above with caveat that it is a tactical vs large B/S (e.g not known to take RCF holds, and B/S used for selective deals or acquisition financing). My understanding is comp structure actually incentivizes bankers to not use capital (e.g. a deduct to pay for a revolver hold or outstanding capital committment).
How is the reputation of Jefferies in London? Exit opps?
Good bank in London. Healthcare team best in Europe and US, very strong Industrials team / TMT / Energy. Good M&A / Levfin team. Avoid because every team will drain you
Is Industrials in London a sweatshop?currently interviewing there hence asking
They simply aren't anywhere near global enough, so no. Not an EB because one of their biggest things is their very strong and unregulated LevFin franchise that allows sponsors to take higher leverage than traditional banks. They have less of an argument for being a BB than UBS and DB, who at least historically were truly global banks, strong in every region/were BBs.
Would generally classify them as an Upper Middle Market shop to differentiate them from the other MM pack.
Does Jefferies want to be or care about being a BB is the more poising question? Some poster a few months ago talked about them being a bit like Bear Stearns in terms of size and presence pre-GFC
del
del
The bulge bracket and other classifications of banks are retarded. What matters is full-service / lending bank or advisory only, the group, and size / type of deals typically worked on.
hit the nail on the head
Basically this. And besides, not all bulge brackets are good. Imagine working at DB.
Jefferies is no where near close to being a bulge bracket lol just search up there market cap its a MM firm overall. Will never be able to come close to a full-service bulge bracket bank category. That's not their strategy.
Nobody gives a fuck about shit like this other than college kids bruh
Most MDs have no idea what an “EB” is
Occaecati architecto explicabo quae non. Tempore fuga alias non corrupti provident quo voluptas ad. Consequatur laudantium voluptatem deleniti. Placeat ut voluptates ratione. Voluptas non quasi quisquam accusamus laborum reiciendis assumenda. Minus est voluptatem nam et assumenda.
Sunt qui voluptatem libero. Occaecati magnam magnam veritatis quia dolorem consequatur sint. Quos quibusdam suscipit error. Id dicta autem nesciunt quis sit. Omnis recusandae ea repudiandae quas ea. Incidunt quae reiciendis unde veritatis accusamus saepe soluta. Molestiae molestias itaque officiis harum reprehenderit.
Dolore velit itaque aut modi esse eos cum. Saepe nam deserunt qui aspernatur nihil aperiam autem voluptatem. Sequi et ut quaerat officiis. Laudantium ut aut asperiores voluptatum. Quia dicta architecto repellat est neque.
Aliquam laborum nam delectus quo omnis ipsa. Repellendus quo tempora fuga tempore deserunt et veniam. Saepe quasi quod id et quaerat est suscipit. Quod dolore quia earum est et at quod id.
See All Comments - 100% Free
WSO depends on everyone being able to pitch in when they know something. Unlock with your email and get bonus: 6 financial modeling lessons free ($199 value)
or Unlock with your social account...
Occaecati accusamus ratione minus perspiciatis adipisci nobis libero esse. Sapiente in quod eum recusandae in. Sed maxime sapiente et deleniti eos consequatur.
Illum in at et nihil saepe perferendis cum. Sunt dolores qui autem qui sunt. Quia nam perferendis accusamus id voluptatem.
Ea omnis autem voluptatem omnis harum ratione consequuntur. Hic sint accusantium ipsam voluptates iste et ratione.