Rainmakers as analysts

Does anyone have any stories on what industry titans (e.g. Moelis, David Solomon etc.) were like as analysts/associates?

Were they always weapons or did that kick in when they became a bit more senior? Any rogue unit stories?

Could apply to any rainmaker, not necessarily the extreme top

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  • Associate 2 in IB - Cov
Nov 21, 2022 - 1:58am

DSol was not a top rainmaker. He has always been much stronger at managing internal bureaucracies at GS than external relationships. In fact, I wouldn't call any of the BB CEO's top rainmakers because that's really not what large public companies look for in a CEO. If you look at the F500 across all industries, you will rarely find a CEO who was a key sales person of the firm.

Nov 21, 2022 - 8:41am
user121, what's your opinion? Comment below:

As a former employee of Houlihan and Moelis I heard a little bit about the CEOs (Ken and Scott Beiser I think) times as junior bankers (associates/analysts maybe). They sounded like fairly typical ones at the time with from what I remember a story of excellence or leadership or something here or there over time. Can echo comments above that it seems like it's more about being an internal leader and leader of the firm as opposed to always being #1 revenue generator, though I do think those guys were/are generally among the top sources of revenue at the firms it seems. 

Nov 21, 2022 - 8:58am
nyctooexpensive2, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I heard Ken Moelis was god's greatest gift to mankind. Absolutely moving billions of dollars every single day since he exited the womb. Never asleep. Always willing to help what rich get richer while simultaneously laughing at everyone beneath him.

From day 1, everyone knew he was different. He's jacked. Not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes.

  • Associate 1 in IB - Cov
Nov 22, 2022 - 6:41am

Macron apparently brought in a multi-billionaire dollar deal at Rothschild when he was an associate / green VP through his school connections. Source: current senior people at R&Co. 

  • Intern in IB - Cov
Nov 22, 2022 - 10:05am

Heard he had a super strong connection with one of his HS teachers. 

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Nov 22, 2022 - 2:54pm
avaxi, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Macron was never an associate or VP, he started his career working for the minister of finance then he joined as a director while bringing a megadeal he got from his friend Attali 

  • Intern in IB-M&A
Nov 22, 2022 - 9:05pm

Not IB but in the book about the whole Caesar's Entertainment fiasco it states that Marc Rowan was known as the "managing analyst" from his work at Drexel

Nov 23, 2022 - 10:59pm
[email protected], what's your opinion? Comment below:

""In his five years at Drexel, Rowan established himself as an uncommonly sharp thinker on finance. After graduating from Wharton with both an undergraduate and MBA degree in 1985, he'd been hired as a junior investment banker, a position which involved plugging numbers into spreadsheet models and drafting investment memos. But his colleagues noticed he was already capable of far more.

His ability to think strategically and devise creative solutions for clients-even in his mid-twenties-was unrivaled. He had secured the flattering moniker, "managing analyst." The term combined the title of "<span class='keyword_link'><a href="/resources/careers/jobs/managing-director-md">managing director</a></span>" and "<span class='keyword_link'><a href="/resources/careers/jobs/financial-analyst-job-description">financial analyst</a></span>," the highest and lowest rungs on the typical project team, given Rowan's ability to run all parts of a deal on his own. "Marc would sit in meetings and then say, 'let me go home and think about this structure,' and he'd come back with some triple backflip no one else had thought of," according to one senior Drexel banker who was involved in Rowan's hiring."<p> </p>
  • Intern in ER
Nov 26, 2022 - 1:27am

Jesus was a terrific analyst when he started out. His extraordinary numeric capabilities were aided by a direct pipeline to his dad - a pipeline which literally allowed him to see into the future. He was predicting his own death since he was born, let alone predicting a company's next quarter's earnings. Whenever he was behind his work he'd pray super hard and all his spreadsheets and models would fill themselves up.

After his analyst stint he decided he wanted more meaningful work, and therefore armed with his strong industry knowledge and modelling abilities honed by the steep learning curve of IBD, he exited to found his own startup - Christianity. He later relinquished the CEO position to St Peter. Now, he's the chairman of Christianity, a huge organization with 2.3 billion employees. He appointed Pope Francis as the CEO

  • Prospect in IB - Gen
Nov 26, 2022 - 2:19am

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