Goal is UMM/MF/Growth PE ideally in NY but open to SF as well (not interested in distressed exits). Which offer is better in terms of 1)exits, 2)prestige, 3) lateral opportunities if oncycle doesn't work out and want to lateral to a better bank to try again and 4)bschool's recognition of the bank in the future?
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is this for FT?
for SA, have no intention for FT recruiting due to low yield and mentor saying its a shitshow. Will just lateral after a year if needed
FT has been a shitshow this year, but most of the time if you have a return offer, it is a very simple and quick process. Would recommend you to go for FT recruiting if you are looking to lateral down the road before you exit. Does not make sense to wait until you start FT bc your mentor said it was a "shit show".
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Rothschild RX is decent, not what they used to be back in 2018 but still a solid group. Jefferies SF is also a decent group, not the strongest tech group even at Jefferies (NY Tech/TES is arguably stronger), but exits are surprisingly solid. If just focused on exits, Jefferies SF would probably win (obviously exits will be tech-focused). Know they sent someone to Francisco, Marlin, and Genstar the past few years off the top of my head.
Jeff SF exits are better but itll be tough to get NY PE exits
Given these circumstances. Are you still leaning Jeff over Roth?
Why would you do RX if you're not interested in distressed? I'm doing RX, and you should know that the interns who weren't actually interested in RX for the sake of itself really hated it as it can get very complex and boring due to how many legal complications there are.
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If you have a rothschild offer you haven’t picked your group yet that happens after you start, and I would (in my opinion) say Roth is more prestigious than Jefferies but possible that’s dated. A lot of people go to credit funds if they work in Rx and M&A most at Roth wind up in MM PE.
I think it boils down to whether you want to live in NYC or SF (if you are interested in tech that’s an important factor in this decision).
Was told it will be for RX roth and honestly RX is one of the better groups (used to be their strongest). Really want to live in NY but also like tech a lot (grew up playing a lot of video games and learning about GPUs/CPUs and how they stem from semis etc) so kinda split between decisions. for prestige/bschool admissions, do they view both banks equal? and in terms of lateraling out which bank will have higher success assuming these groups?
If this is Jefferies Tech SF, you're not gonna be working on anything semiconductors, gaming, etc. They basically only do SaaS Software out there.
Rothschild doesn't do RX specific intern offers. That said, RX isn't hard to get there if you want it.
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I really don't get why everybody's overhyping Jeffreries. Rothschild has a stellar brand and RX is probably the most impressive groups to work in. Jerking off to league tables are an utter waste of time, nobody cares. At the end of the day, breaking into PE comes down to the glance at your resume, strong relationships and proving your worth to the team. Seriously, candidates from MMs like Jeffries are a dime a dozen, you'll be even more vanilla than BB DCM. Rothschild, however, will make you stand out among your peers, for RX aside, the institution name alone puts you among the elite.
Roth has a long and proven history but it's doing mm size deals in the US. Jef has been doing 1bn+ transactions. Roth's rx group is killer but their other groups don't have the same capabiltiies to support RX - this is especially true for HL. But that's just my humble opinion would love to hear your take
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