Schools That Have Been Placing Poorly
As title states, which schools come to mind in recent years (2021-present) that have really seen a significant downturn in their IB pipeline?
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Based on the most helpful WSO content, there isn't a direct mention of specific schools that have seen a significant downturn in their IB pipeline from 2021 onward. However, there are some general observations and trends that could provide insight:
Target School Prestige Decline: There has been a growing sentiment that the academic prestige associated with target schools is becoming less impactful. Some WSO users have noted that non-target students with strong work ethics are increasingly competing with and sometimes outperforming target school students.
Exclusive Clubs and Workshops: Certain schools or programs, like the UBS IB workshop mentioned, are highly selective and send most participants to top firms. This exclusivity might indirectly highlight schools or programs that are not as competitive or well-connected.
Systemic Challenges for Non-Targets: Non-target schools often face systemic challenges in IB placement. While some flagship state schools (e.g., UF, UW Madison) are recognized for producing strong candidates, others may struggle due to lack of resources, alumni networks, or awareness of IB opportunities.
If you're looking for specific schools with a downturn in IB placement, this information isn't explicitly available in the WSO dataset. However, the trends suggest that schools not adapting to the competitive and evolving IB recruiting landscape may face challenges.
Sources: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/systemic-oppression-of-non-target-students?customgpt=1, Declining Analyst Quality - Fact or Myth, Unofficial 2020 Public School Tiers for IB Placement, IBP Institute Announces Investment Banking Professional (IBP) Credential, Declining Analyst Quality - Fact or Myth
Cornell… used to be a powerhouse placing as much as Stern (which is 3rd to none) with 3/4ths the people trying… now gets out-placed by Ross
Stop jerking off Stern. You're crazy if you think they were 3rd to none per capita.
Who the fuck said per capita retard?
This kid glazes/defends stern in every thread
This is just not true, Cornell recruiting is still fine, still places the most people at JPM, and got like 8+ into Evercore
Stern placement is worse than Cornell
Not mutually exclusive with what I said
Cornell has been consistently upgraded on internal target lists over the past five years, notably evercore, centerview, Point72, and is one of the only schools repeatedly sending to Citadel. None of that happened on such a consistent basis 5+ years ago. It places the most to JPM, BofA, and now Evercore of any school in the country, and is top five for GS and MS, with placements expanding every year at each. I'm a senior and have watched recruitment get better every single year I've been here. I wish I was recruiting now from Cornell. You're simply wrong.
zero recent citadel… would argue UVA/UTA are dominating that field
Am a senior at Cornell going to a top BB and involved with clubs. 18 kids got JPM last year, similar amount this year as well. Just looking at the most recent cycle, big pipeline to EVR, MS, JPM, GS, Citi, WF, BX, list goes on...
Ivey Western
I feel like Princeton is never too crazy with their placements, unless its just that their students dont want to go into IB and would rather enter into other fields
Went to Princeton, can confirm it's extremely easy to get into any BB/EB IB role though some firms like CVP/GS are still competitive to get even as non-diversity. Will caveat you do require a very basic level of social skill and have to still memorize the guides and talk to some people. The nice thing about Princeton compared to a Wharton or other top finance school is that there is less competition, and everyone still highly respects your school. The reason for relatively lower placement is due to a distinct lack of interest, in IB, and the ones who are go into buyside out of ugrad or quant-related roles.
kinda like MIT in a sense
obv a super target but IB is not the main draw for people there who’d prefer tech or quant or ai etc
del
Rather than a specific trend I think there has a been a measurable shift away from target schools across the street this year, targets still placed well but a lot of non-targets have been eating away at traditional target seats
Do you think it's because of less people at targets wanting to do IB
Doubt it - feel like more kids than ever want to do investment banking. Some of the technical targets (Princeton/MIT/etc) have always had a smaller group of ib interested students anyway
MIT
Every California school
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