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To put things in context, I am a rising junior interning at a regional top MM IB,
no you will look like a tool
Include or don't include on resume? (Originally Posted: 02/12/2009)
So I am a second semester senior, still with no job. I am taking an advanced financial modeling class in school (based on a Wall Street Modeling Training Program, scaled down of course, and taught by a former banker who went on to start his own PE fund) and I am doing an independent study working to learn the basics of VBA.
My question is, should I mention these things on my resume, in order to maybe help me stand out? Or would the inclusion of these things just lead to them grilling me about modeling and VBA in interviews, which I am obviously not ready for since I am just starting with both topics?
Any input would be great, thanks.
I don't think the tiny boost is worth the chance of getting grilled.
i would mention it but prepare to be grilled on technicals
I agree. If you can build fully integrated financial statements, build an LBO model, accretion/dilution model, etc... it is def worth mentioning. But you should be able to discuss it intelligently. If you're not as comfortable with it, you can prepare by going through it over and over and actually learning exactly what it is and how everything contributes to the whole.
Also of importance is the thought process behind the assumptions. What I did on my interviews was say that the class itself was focused on financial modeling so most of our assumptions were given, but obviously I knew the basis for most of the assumptions and briefly mentioned them.
That's helpful to know. Thanks!
I've seen similar things on resumes before and it usually goes one of two ways:
If in the latter you fail the technicals because you only watched the videos on DCF, its an automatic ding. If you rule and can answer the questions correctly, I am sure that this will be a big plus and bring you a lot closer to actually getting an offer.
I applied for a ER position and didn't have significant modeling experience outside of coursework and self-study. Came into the interview with sample comps, DCFs, and multiple valuations for companies in the firm's coverage universe. Got an offer eventually (didn't accept) and I'm certain it was because I took this initiative.
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