Ubs vs Blair vs Baird vs stifel
Which shop should I choose for ib? Looking to move to pe after two years. Which gives the best options? What are the best groups?
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UBS (as a bulge bracket) will open far more doors than the other three MM shops. Recruiting for PE will be tough from a Baird, Blair, and Stifel. Headhunters do reach out to people at all BB's and UBS places analysts into megafunds every now and then. At the least, you should be set up for MM PE by going to UBS, but it would be tough at the others.
UBS hands down. Baird is called Robert "White Bread" for a reason....
UBS hands down. I completely agree with SF_G.
If not go Baird or William Blair.
Do they not place into mega funds every year? What are top groups?
MF's usually have associate classes of 8-12 on average (maybe more or less depending on the firm) and what counts as a MF usually depends on some arbitrary cutoff point. UBS should provide some MF interviews at the least.
Top UBS groups are LevFin/sponsors and industrials, with LevFin being the rainmaker. Have heard good things about M&A and TMT as well.
Apologies to butt in, but how do you know which is top group at a bank? Where is the source?
I would actually take William Blair. They are viewed as an ultra-selective MM bank and has a fantastic reputation in the marketplace. I've also seen really extremely good MM PE exit opps from there.
Think about location as well. If you want NY then UBS (assuming offer is in NYC). If you want CHI, then WB.
If you are going to UBS (or any BB for that matter) on the off chance that you are going get into MF, then that is a terrible move. UBS guys that place into good funds are usually from strong target schools. Most UBS guys have a hard time and place into even decent funds. This is a generalization and there are few UBS guys that place well.
Most UBS guys have a hard time and place into decent funds - what information are you basing this on please?
(Not being aggressive, just genuinely curious. Trying to learn my way around this forum)
If you are looking purely at exit opps, UBS will give you the most options as 1) you'll be working in the large-cap deal space and doing so will give you a shot at a broader range of funds (including MF's if you're gung-ho on those) 2) you'll be in NYC, and there are more funds to network with in NY. That being said, you can still land MM PE gigs out of the MM banks you have offers at.
And like another poster said, if you can go to NY, go there because you're handicapping yourself going to other cities out of undergraduate unless for whatever reason you want to be there long-term. NY gives you the most optionality. It is much hard to move from, for example, Chicago to NY then vice versa.
Even so, UBS bumblefuck would still easily beat out the other firms.
Is UBS that bad? From the sound of it, UBS is a horrible place to work with no exit opps to mega funds. Is thy just the bias of this site? I have seen quite a few UBS people at mf.
Interested in this too.
Personally, I think it does not matter that much as long as you work for a Bulge Bracket (BB) bank. Obviously, GS will give you a better chance, but does it matter that much? Doubt it.
Most of the people writing here are in university, UBS is absolutely fine.
So they have good pe exits? The forum just made them all seen like mouth breathers. They seem to dominate Asia and they seem to be doing better in us.
Yes, you'll be just fine at UBS.
There exists this circlejerk on WSO that the only viable career path is Target Undergrad -> Top Tier BB - > MF PE - > M7 MBA and that anything else means you're a failure.
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Can anyone name a few funds that UBS analyst have gone to in recent years??
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