What are your thoughts on people with pronouns in their signatures?
From what i've seen it's not especially common in IB compared to what my friends in law/consulting have said. I've heard from my friends in SF IB that it's a bit more common there. And obviously the HR women do it.
To anyone here who does this who isn't actually transgender - what the fuck do you think you're even doing? You might as well replace it with "I do exactly what i'm told to do" which would have the same effect but wouldn't ever need to be updated. Because we both know if you were in Medieval Europe you'd be throwing rocks at witches, waving a little swastika flag in late 30s Germany, holding up a little picture of Stalin on May Day in the USSR, and on and on. Because if you uncritically accept something this absurd there literally isn't anything you wouldn't "go with the flow" on.
Yeah, I do not get it. For anyone that says "it's to make others feel more comfortable", that's bullshit. You shouldn't feel uncomfortable that I identify with normal pronouns like 98% of the population.
That’s exactly the point dumbass - socially aware humans understand gender does not equal sex organs, and such one cannot always assume that because you have certain sex organs that you identify with the associated gender.
Memorializing so people can continue to throw MS at original post even after it’s been deleted.
Hehehe.
It's a coded language. It tells me that they are progressive in the political spectrum and are far leftists. They most likely think Bernie Sanders or AOC are visionaries and some of the greatest thinkers of our time. It might sound ludicrous for me to make these assumptions just from pronouns, but from my personal experience, it's right like 80-90% of the time. Anyone that I follow on instagram that has pronouns or BLM in their bio almost always is a raging leftist that is very vocal with displaying their authoritarian political views on a variety of issues. They may try to explain away the authoritarianism by claiming it can't be such since their goal is to help people. Little do they know that just because they're masking their authoritarianism with humanitarianism, does not make their views any less authoritarian.
I would lean to say on the autism spectrum as well.
It's the trend now. Woky wokes virtue signalling all day.
I just hope one of them tells me something for not wearing my mask outside so that I have a reason to punch them in the face
While I agree that it doesn't hurt anyone, my immediate thought is that you're some woke SJW. And that's an auto-ding for me, simply because it ruins office culture. Every joke is disected and a potential visit to the HR department. Nah, thanks - I'm good.
I don’t really care if they do, but I will say that I find it extremely unprofessional.
To me its the equivalent of putting your political views on your signature, it shows you are incapable of separating your personal views from your work, which to me is a no go.
I don't see why it would bother you unless you're anti-trans (which is not just a progressive position btw).
Most people find performative political virtue signaling obnoxious.
What's wrong with being anti-trans?
there's an inverse correlation between how long your email signature is and how much time I want to spend with you, regardless of what's in it, this includes pronouns
I have mine as short as my company allows me to have it
name
title
NMLS number (regulatory requirement)
address (3 lines, mandated by regulators, I'd delete this)
phone
email (mandated by company, I'd delete it, you're fucking emailing me I don't need to type it again)
my website
my personal email is
Brofessor
123-456-7899
my idea is this: if you know my name, you can find my cell phone, email, website, and 3rd party websites that have info on me, I'm easily google-able, email signatures are just self fellating. like look at this pile of steaming shit
brofessor PWM
pronouns: bro/breh/brah/braj/hella
Senior Omniprescient Director
Certified Financial Planner
Certified Narcissist
Certified Bullshit Course that took me 2 hours on a weekend but has a cool acronym
NMLS 123456
address
office phone
other office phone
cell phone
fax number (fucking seriously, we still have people that do this)
assistant phone
email (again, WHY)
social media #1
social media #2
social media #3
website
PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE PRINTING THIS EMAIL
The best way to thank us for a job well done is to refer your friends and family to us! (seriously, people do this)
I don’t have pronouns in my signature and don’t plan on including them, but I’m hesitant to equate non-transgender people who do include pronouns in their emails to those waving Swastika flags in the 30’s. Seems like a bit of a stretch
This is way too much thought being put into something that doesn't directly or indirectly affect you.
Exactly. I honestly don't get why all these insecure conservative beta males are so offended to what other people's pronouns are and if they put it next to their name or not for the sake of basic identification. Like this shit doesn't affect you at all, yet they make everything so goddamn political when it isn't.
Lol I love that 80% of shitlibs in this topic aren't even really defending it, just going "uh sir why do you care!!"
Because it's clownish and people who do it deserve to get dunked on. People posting cringy self-congratulatory linkedin messages also doesn't effect anyone, but we dunk on them too.
Get over it
This might be a hot take, but I find it helpful. I work with a lot of international clients with non traditional names. I will routinely check linkedin for their gender to make sure I’m using the correct pronouns.
As for the trans gender part, I try not to read into it too much. I do assume they’re trying signal their progressive values though.
Pretty embarrassing thread here, I feel compelled to say that most professionals actually take LBTQ awareness seriously.
People who include pronouns in their signatures are just doing their part to express solidarity and support for people that might otherwise feel reservations about being themselves in a professional environment in way consistent with norms in LBTQ communities. Part of being an adult is going out of your way to understand different views and accepting people for who they are.
Professionals generally, sure, given that most professionals are midwit drones who do exactly what they're told and take their social cues from people they perceive to be more elite than them. But I haven't seen much of it in banking which is much more full of people with a rational-analytical mindset who aren't as scared to go against the grain if they see something stupid. This is pretty obvious from the vote counts in this topic. What people SHOULD do is treat people fairly and politely. But that doesn't mean putting blinders on and ignoring obvious patterns or losing your grip on reality.
If you're putting pronouns in your bio to highlight your gender that is incredibly obvious to everyone so that you can show solidarity with people with dicks who think they're girls, you've joined a cult. A powerful cult, sure, but a cult. Should have picked Scientology.
I've seen the pronouns in sig thing quite a number of times and honestly haven't even spared it a thought. If you or anyone else is actually bristled by this, then you might be as neurotic and/or as much as a snowflake as the people you are judging. Seriously, why would anyone even give a fuck about that? Do some introspection